|
ArtHenrey
|
 |
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2016, 07:55:22 pm » |
|
That term "can it stop and bay big boars" was used loosely. You know as a dog men and a experienced hunter that not every boar you get on is getting caught that night. Eventually caught is a diffrent story. As twards the dogs being bred. I see your point aswell. Opinions vary.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Arturo Villarreal -V
Elgin, tx
512-815-8569
|
|
|
|
l.h.cracker
|
|
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2016, 07:59:13 pm » |
|
Ok right or wrong how should someone one go by getting good dogs with out dropping a lot of cash that most of us dont have please educate me
You work to earn them. You research, you listen, and you hunt with as many dogmen as you can tag along with. You keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed. Mouth closed meaning be respectful and ask questions with humility. Quality animals produced by quality dogmen can often be obtained for little to nothin, but you have to put the work in to earn their trust. Just my 2 pennies from personal experience. This is what I was getting at pay your dues and in time with experience and hard work you'll know what you want and how to obtain it.Art I wasn't implying by any means that a dogs a cull if it gets smoked but if that dog doesn't finish high percentages of hogs it strikes than why breed it and if it can't strike at all then why isn't it a cull? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Wisdom is something you get right after you need it.
|
|
|
|
cscott
|
|
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2016, 08:21:28 pm » |
|
Ok right or wrong how should someone one go by getting good dogs with out dropping a lot of cash that most of us dont have please educate me
You work to earn them. You research, you listen, and you hunt with as many dogmen as you can tag along with. You keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed. Mouth closed meaning be respectful and ask questions with humility. Quality animals produced by quality dogmen can often be obtained for little to nothin, but you have to put the work in to earn their trust. Just my 2 pennies from personal experience. This is what I was getting at pay your dues and in time with experience and hard work you'll know what you want and how to obtain it.Art I wasn't implying by any means that a dogs a cull if it gets smoked but if that dog doesn't finish high percentages of hogs it strikes than why breed it and if it can't strike at all then why isn't it a cull? Ok I understand what your say but at the same time I dont no anyone with a good line of dogs around me I no a few guys with a good dog but not good lines so it still come down to breeding my own out of different dogs I think that make better ones. I have also asked a few guys on here that are know to have great line of dog if I could ever buy one and they all have said no for some reason or another so it come back to me doing it myself with the help of a few guys around here. Its alot of hard work and no easy way to do it to have great dogs |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Slim9797
|
|
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2016, 08:36:29 pm » |
|
I haven't claimed to know anything. I admitted I don't know what I'm doing. But I go the the woods 3-5 days a week attempting to figure out. I've claimed to believe what I believe and I'm confident in my opinions. I was completely fine with your first response cracker and I guess my reply to you wasn't suffice. And why is it always the young guys "getting mouthy" but if I was 30 it would just be me having an opinion you didn't agree with. I've made friends with blue collar guys who keep good dogs like Chris and Arturo. They've both done me solid favors more than once and they have nothing but my respect. I get I'm young and there's the whole respect your elders principal but seniority doesn't give you the right to come at me sideways like you did when you didn't like my answer to your questions. I'm done with this thread. Chris I appreciate the little bit of looking out you do for me, I'm fixing to kick lady out and see if I can get outran again. Arturo, no neck jerking, I'm looking forward to a pup out of them 2 dogs we've talked about! happy hunting guys. I'm kicking some culls out right now
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
We run dillo dogs that trash on hogs
|
|
|
|
ArtHenrey
|
|
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2016, 08:55:49 pm » |
|
Pay your dues. As in what, catch more hogs? Or as the years pass. The way I see it. I'm a poor young dad. I keep a small yard. Because it's what I can afford. Could my small yard go to crap in one short hunt? Damn right! Right hog, all my work gone! Why not with what we say "pay our dues" as you progress keep pups on the back burner incase these accidents happen. They mite not be what you would breed, or me, or my neighbor. Bah bah! But as time passes, do as you say and cull out! Bring in better blood as time ticks. More people you meet, bring in new blood. BETTER BLOOD. This crap doesn't happen over night! Even a rich man can say that!
You my friend used the term not me. It is possible to get outrun .it happens every night to diffrent hunter as we speak.
Why isn't it a cull if it don't strike? Well I have a dog. Name is reba, I raised her. She's 4 now. And there's no money that will get her. Why? Because she is a TRUE ME TOOOO!! dog. She will go to hell, swim to the bottom of the ocean, back up for air go back down. Type dog. Is she a cull? To me nah! She plays a big part in the percentages of pork brought in. Do I post every hog caught? Nah! But she is a team player! She's rough, will grab one and back up. She's silent till in one's face! She has enough gas in her tank for my pack. Rain shine or snow. She will roll off with strike dog, and won't say number 2 till looking at one. She's trash broke. Will honor a bay at 100 miles(kidding) if she could hear it and got left behind for whatever reason. She's earned her keep. Why cull her? I don't find the reason to. She doesn't strike. But she's my go to helper. And I can promise you her sister that's my lead dog. Loves seeing her in the box. Cracker I have no problem with you by the way. I guess I ran out of popcorn on this one hahaha
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Arturo Villarreal -V
Elgin, tx
512-815-8569
|
|
|
|
l.h.cracker
|
|
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2016, 09:26:22 pm » |
|
Art I'm as poor as poor can be I have a wife and 4 kids and I am the bread winner I climb trees for a living and barely get by.I meant pay your dues by paying your dues wasn't directed at you and I never said you got culls and if you like a help dog than I'm glad that you have a good one. Everything I said is how I feel and I know that you appreciate a good line of dogs cause you post pictures of ones you're proud of. Not saying that there aren't good dogs in every man's yard on here.But I don't believe in breeding just any old dog and spreading them around they should be proven at the very least although I have half a dozen proven dogs that will never be bred because I don't know there line is proven or there line isn't quite what I'm after. on the other hand I also own dogs that are proven from the line of dogs that I want and am confident in a breeding and what they will produce.It has taken me four years of huntin 2-5 nights a week and immeasurable amounts of research and bsn with the right dogmen to track down and obtain the dogs I own and wish to own.These are the dues I speak of and watering down working dogs ain't for me.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Wisdom is something you get right after you need it.
|
|
|
|
ArtHenrey
|
|
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2016, 09:59:38 pm » |
|
Well I don't prefer to just keep a help dog round but she earned her keep. Haha. I hear you on alot! Like I said no harm intended. Like I said I have a small yard so I hope the choices made ,dogs moved out and on, and few raised and kept, will pan out. I don't plan on buying another dog other than what I raise and breed myself If all goes smooth. But again I bring myself back to my own opinion of breeding my own. It's all I got.. i think that were this thred was all going. .. There what I believe could make nice dogs in the near future but I could be completly wrong. I'll shush. Night fellas
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Arturo Villarreal -V
Elgin, tx
512-815-8569
|
|
|
|
cscott
|
|
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2016, 11:07:41 pm » |
|
You all know this isnt the easy sport to get into findings dog to training dog it alot of work an almost everyone is to up tight to help them. For one reason they dont want someone new hunting in their area. Bc I know I dont like hunting with many people. Im hunting solo right now and didnt call or invite anyone I have 2 hogs so far nothing good.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
liefalwepon
|
|
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2016, 03:20:22 am » |
|
Slim nothing special little this and that. But they have ladner x Jordan x mnt cur
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Is Jordan Bmc? The two on the bottom have legs for days! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
WHACK EM N STACK EM!!!
|
|
|
|
liefalwepon
|
|
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2016, 03:31:01 am » |
|
Breed for success I guess is the name of the game.... Accidents happen.. And every hunter has his own opinion of a cull. I've kicked out and got another mans cull and it has turned into one of my better dogs.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I agree, accidental litters do happen and most guys I know keep a couple just to see how they turn out. Sounds like it was slims partner that messed up and he's just trying to make the most of it. There's guys out here that breed junk and guys that have good stuff, I'm sure it's always been that way. The guys with the good blood are never going to cross junk in there and the guys breeding junk don't know any better and prob never will. I don't see what it hurts unless your selling junk dogs, and saying they're good. But what do I know, I'm from Ca. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
WHACK EM N STACK EM!!!
|
|
|
|
liefalwepon
|
|
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2016, 03:34:53 am » |
|
Ok right or wrong how should someone one go by getting good dogs with out dropping a lot of cash that most of us dont have please educate me
You work to earn them. You research, you listen, and you hunt with as many dogmen as you can tag along with. You keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed. Mouth closed meaning be respectful and ask questions with humility. Quality animals produced by quality dogmen can often be obtained for little to nothin, but you have to put the work in to earn their trust. Just my 2 pennies from personal experience. Yes sir your a 100% right That's what I did, it seems to be working out. The guy that got me started everyone calls "the dog father" You don't earn his trust easily |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
WHACK EM N STACK EM!!!
|
|
|
|
Swine-Stalker
|
|
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2016, 06:52:12 am » |
|
 I let the wife and kids name all but 1 L-R Mello, Emma, Thelma, Bass... And my pick Django Below is my 1.5yr old cd. She is impressive so far. 1/2Pit 1/2AB Roux  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
We'll all be equal under the grass, God's got a heaven for country trash
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work
for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
|
|
|
|
lacrash
|
|
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2016, 07:43:57 am » |
|
what are the black dogs Swinestalker?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Swine-Stalker
|
|
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2016, 08:08:31 am » |
|
Some old livestock blood with some Parker thrown in.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
We'll all be equal under the grass, God's got a heaven for country trash
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work
for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
|
|
|
|
Judge peel
|
|
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2016, 08:09:48 am » |
|
Jordan is bmc
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Mike
|
|
« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2016, 08:36:49 am » |
|
I let the wife and kids name all but 1 L-R Mello, Emma, Thelma, Bass... And my pick Django Now that's a good looking litter of pups! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
justincorbell
|
|
« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2016, 08:56:00 am » |
|
Ok right or wrong how should someone one go by getting good dogs with out dropping a lot of cash that most of us dont have please educate me
You work to earn them. You research, you listen, and you hunt with as many dogmen as you can tag along with. You keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed. Mouth closed meaning be respectful and ask questions with humility. Quality animals produced by quality dogmen can often be obtained for little to nothin, but you have to put the work in to earn their trust. Just my 2 pennies from personal experience. Wise words from a wise fella! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
|
|
|
|
justincorbell
|
|
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2016, 09:08:34 am » |
|
I let the wife and kids name all but 1 L-R Mello, Emma, Thelma, Bass... And my pick Django Now that's a good looking litter of pups! haha, literally the first thing I thought of when I saw em was "boy i bet mike will like them"  . Not my preferred paint job BUT they sure do look like they're built right! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
|
|
|
|
Mike
|
|
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2016, 09:17:42 am » |
|
Haha... heck yeah!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Swine-Stalker
|
|
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2016, 09:39:38 am » |
|
She had 11, raised 10. Lost 1 of the 10 to a battle with coccidiosis and was left with 9. After me and the guy with the stud took his I'm left with the 5 pictured. The pup Django is gonna fill out to be a looker as it seems now. I'll try to get a better pic of him if he will sit still. As everyone says I have high hopes for them. Especially since I'm down to 2 bay dogs. It's a much needed "restocking" attempt.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
We'll all be equal under the grass, God's got a heaven for country trash
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work
for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
|
|
|
|
