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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2016, 11:31:02 am » |
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Chainrated can you have a hogdog by the age 1 1/2 or under 2?
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I aint Chainrated but I will give you an answer to what I think. Yes i believe a dog can be a hogdog before it is 2 years old. But like I said befroe a dog is not finished until it is dead. A dog is always learning in my eyes. I have had one dog that was a hogdog before 1 year and he was the best I have ever raised or owned...and I have raised some I would put against any hog dog by time they were 18 months old...a hunting dog is born... I also believe a hog dog can be a finished dog when he reaches a certain peak...just like any great athlete whether it be track, football, basketball or whichever...even the great loose their edge over time...and so it is the same with great hunting dogs... feeding tracks will make any hunting dog a better hunting dog...but a dog that is born to hunt you just show him what you want... if a pup don't show me certain traits he won't last long around my place... |
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2016, 01:24:17 pm » |
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Chainrated can you have a hogdog by the age 1 1/2 or under 2?
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I aint Chainrated but I will give you an answer to what I think. Yes i believe a dog can be a hogdog before it is 2 years old. But like I said befroe a dog is not finished until it is dead. A dog is always learning in my eyes. I have had one dog that was a hogdog before 1 year and he was the best I have ever raised or owned...and I have raised some I would put against any hog dog by time they were 18 months old...a hunting dog is born... I also believe a hog dog can be a finished dog when he reaches a certain peak...just like any great athlete whether it be track, football, basketball or whichever...even the great loose their edge over time...and so it is the same with great hunting dogs... feeding tracks will make any hunting dog a better hunting dog...but a dog that is born to hunt you just show him what you want... if a pup don't show me certain traits he won't last long around my place... So you are saying that an old dog won't or can't learn after they reach a certain age? To me that is like saying that I can't learn something new since I have gotten older. That athlete may not can compete with young ones anymore but they can still compete and do it a smarter way. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2016, 02:55:16 pm » |
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This is what I called finished.....as of 12:30 today he finally met his match in the woods and sadly he passed before they could get him to the vet. He was as much a hogdog as any ive ever followed thru the woods.  |
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2016, 05:31:08 pm » |
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I believe you can have a damn good started dog at age 2... just think what it will be at 4 or 5. I still call 2 year old dogs pups haha.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2016, 06:33:30 pm » |
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Justin...sorry to hear that about your dog...it's hard losing a good one...
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2016, 06:41:42 pm » |
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Chainrated can you have a hogdog by the age 1 1/2 or under 2?
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I aint Chainrated but I will give you an answer to what I think. Yes i believe a dog can be a hogdog before it is 2 years old. But like I said befroe a dog is not finished until it is dead. A dog is always learning in my eyes. I have had one dog that was a hogdog before 1 year and he was the best I have ever raised or owned...and I have raised some I would put against any hog dog by time they were 18 months old...a hunting dog is born... I also believe a hog dog can be a finished dog when he reaches a certain peak...just like any great athlete whether it be track, football, basketball or whichever...even the great loose their edge over time...and so it is the same with great hunting dogs... feeding tracks will make any hunting dog a better hunting dog...but a dog that is born to hunt you just show him what you want... if a pup don't show me certain traits he won't last long around my place... So you are saying that an old dog won't or can't learn after they reach a certain age? To me that is like saying that I can't learn something new since I have gotten older. That athlete may not can compete with young ones anymore but they can still compete and do it a smarter way. Hillbilly...I never said an older dog doesn't get better...I was thinking when taking everything into consideration just as with anything else...the body tends to slow down at some point... Heck I am on a turnaround planning/coordinating team and half of us are retirees...they hired us because of our past histories...The younger guys were hand picked from out in the field contractors that had proven their worth day in and day out....no different as with anything else... |
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2016, 07:34:06 pm » |
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Few things that will always keep a dog in the game no matter age nose will and heart. Feeding tracks might build a dog up to a level but theses things keep em there
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2016, 09:53:33 pm » |
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Few things that will always keep a dog in the game no matter age nose will and heart. Feeding tracks might build a dog up to a level but theses things keep em there
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this is my lady gyp I think. Atleast to me. She's only 5 but after going 6-8 months without being hunted before she was handed to me. She's horribly out of shape. And I've had her about 2 months and hunted her hard as I can. I still don't believe she's 100% but she has too much heart. She can be sored up, damn near can't move. I kick her out she's gonna go hunt. Might get outran after she strikes but she's gonna give it hell. That's my "IT" factor for a dog. It don't have to be an Allstar, heck I don't own a Allstar, but I own a few dogs that will give it hell and I enjoy feeding them and hunting behind them. Even today, we hunted all day long, hit 2 spots with old sign if any at all, Lady was sore from chasing track stars all week, and she and the rest of the dogs we kicked out went hunting. And didn't quit till we threw em back in the box Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2016, 11:24:49 am » |
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Few things that will always keep a dog in the game no matter age nose will and heart. Feeding tracks might build a dog up to a level but theses things keep em there
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this is my lady gyp I think. Atleast to me. She's only 5 but after going 6-8 months without being hunted before she was handed to me. She's horribly out of shape. And I've had her about 2 months and hunted her hard as I can. I still don't believe she's 100% but she has too much heart. She can be sored up, damn near can't move. I kick her out she's gonna go hunt. Might get outran after she strikes but she's gonna give it hell. That's my "IT" factor for a dog. It don't have to be an Allstar, heck I don't own a Allstar, but I own a few dogs that will give it hell and I enjoy feeding them and hunting behind them. Even today, we hunted all day long, hit 2 spots with old sign if any at all, Lady was sore from chasing track stars all week, and she and the rest of the dogs we kicked out went hunting. And didn't quit till we threw em back in the box Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You have had this dog 2 months and spoken many times about how out of shape this dog is and even had to carry her out. First off, no respectable dog man would allow an unfit dog to go so hard that the dog breaks itself down time and time again without getting the dog in shape enough to handle being hunted hard. Most dogs hunted on this forum can be easily whipped in shape just through normal hunting and handle it BUT their are breeds that have so much hunt drive and physical abilities that allow them to quickly wreck themselves if they are allowed to hunt out of shape. Your lady dog is neither of these. She just normal cur and cur does not fall under the dogs which I am referring to with the natural physical abilities to wreck themselves to a big degree. You either have some underlying issues with this dog that make you think she is so horribly out of shape or you are doing something wrong. Either way, I'm constantly reading where your allowing this dog to run herself down. My advice to you is to stop this practice of allowing her to get this way. Two months is too long for this to have continue with this dog the way it has. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2016, 11:39:01 am » |
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Black streak. Forgive me if I exaggerated the whole cant move deal. And she's back in shape I believe, not 100% like she might have been at 2-3 years old but she's in shape enough to be making races for a few hours. When she does get sored up I rest her a few days. Give her Red cell and feed and water her good and get her off the chain just to walk around and stretch. 3-4 days later she sometimes still seems sore but if I think she's good enough to go I take her. I'll take the advice you have to give black streak and I apologize if I seem like I'm failing my dog here. But she acts fine just seems sore some times. I've just been doing what I've been advised to by the person I got her from and what I see fit. If it continues for much longer I'll see to it that I look in to it. But I was expecting a 3 month time table to get her back going 100%
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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2016, 12:04:17 pm » |
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Lol quite exagerating, I love to help when I can. Sounds good, good luck
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2016, 12:13:52 pm » |
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Lol quite exagerating, I love to help when I can. Sounds good, good luck
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2016, 02:12:29 pm » |
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Dang slim chitin in everyone's Cheerios. Haha
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2016, 04:12:22 pm » |
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Dang slim chitin in everyone's Cheerios. Haha
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I don't even try. I guess it's a curse. Just trying to go about this dogging thing what I think is the right way Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Slim...sounds you have one heck of a gyp...what do you know about her parents, etc... |
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2016, 04:37:43 pm » |
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Dogs take very little to get in shape at 5 yrs old few runs feed restriction and fresh water dog can be in top shape in two or three weeks tops. There might be a underline joint issue or metabolizing issue. I have seen some very over weight dogs get it done night after night.
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2016, 05:18:26 pm » |
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Dang slim chitin in everyone's Cheerios. Haha
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I don't even try. I guess it's a curse. Just trying to go about this dogging thing what I think is the right way Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Slim...sounds you have one heck of a gyp...what do you know about her parents, etc... as far as I know she's a best to best backyard breeding out of a group of buds from north Texas. No pedigree written. Just good dogs got bred and they culled hard. She's a product of it. Not any allstar or super dog. But a solid dog I think she is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2016, 05:32:33 pm » |
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Dogs take very little to get in shape at 5 yrs old few runs feed restriction and fresh water dog can be in top shape in two or three weeks tops. There might be a underline joint issue or metabolizing issue. I have seen some very over weight dogs get it done night after night.
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she's a funny dog in general. She just acts different maybe idk. Weirdest dog you've ever met if you get to meet her. Maybe I'm saying she's out of shape and she's not. Maybe shes just is weird... But apparently I can't talk about my dogs with out getting hung by the skin of my teeth first and asked questions later Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2016, 06:11:18 pm » |
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Dogs take very little to get in shape at 5 yrs old few runs feed restriction and fresh water dog can be in top shape in two or three weeks tops. There might be a underline joint issue or metabolizing issue. I have seen some very over weight dogs get it done night after night.
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she's a funny dog in general. She just acts different maybe idk. Weirdest dog you've ever met if you get to meet her. Maybe I'm saying she's out of shape and she's not. Maybe shes just is weird... But apparently I can't talk about my dogs with out getting hung by the skin of my teeth first and asked questions later Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk just hunt your dog the way you like and dont worry about what people say. you hunt them hard enough they will get stove up. |
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2016, 06:37:09 pm » |
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I don't know bout that I got some weird dogs lol. Dogs are that just dogs but some have more needs than others. But I agree do what ever makes you grin cuz that's what I do and it works well
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2016, 07:49:53 pm » |
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Thanks guys. And I'll keep pushin them. Imagine that's the only way to get them any better
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