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« on: February 03, 2016, 06:54:59 pm » |
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I'm sure this thread has been posted before and this forum ain't real bad about it. A lot of Facebook hoggers want to sell you a "finished" dog for 250 or 300 bucks. Now anyone that knows anything obviously realizes that the finished is in qoutation marks for a reason. But I wanna know what's yalls ideal finished hog dog.
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hillbilly
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 07:07:41 pm » |
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When it is dead.
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haakdt
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 07:22:54 pm » |
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When it is dead.
True because most people are not gonna get rid of a finished dog there is too much time and money invested I'm them I have 2 dogs that are as closed to finished as there gonna get and there is no price I've had both from puppy's and hunted them their whole life they will die in the woods or in my yard Sent from my Z812 using Tapatalk
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"If you can't hang with the big dogs then stay outta the street"
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 07:22:56 pm » |
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Finished is just a term that means if I drop the dog it should go find a hog. But every one has a different opinion of what that is. Going to be hard to find a good dog for 300 but it can be done
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haakdt
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 07:27:42 pm » |
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I look at age.
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Age is a factor too because at a year or 2 old a dog still has a lot of puppy in it like I said I'm my other comment mine are the closest their going to get and they are 5 1/2 and 4 1/2 but I know others who won't say there's are until they are older than that Sent from my Z812 using Tapatalk
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boarboy
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 07:35:59 pm » |
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Haakdt I know exactly how your dogs hunt haha to be exact I just asked you to narrow one of them. I figured someone would say when they're dead. And I do believe no one will sell a truly finished hog dog unless they just get in a bind. I like to think a finished dog is one you can drop anywhere and the next time you see it its lookin at a hog that would be a dog I considered finished
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BA-IV
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 07:54:33 pm » |
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I will with the right offer. I can make more dogs.
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Any dog can bay a hog every once in awhile, but a HOG DOG makes hogs when other dogs couldn't find their tail. Them kinda dogs you don't make often, you are just their ride to the woods!
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 08:09:12 pm » |
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I will with the right offer. I can make more dogs.
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Any dog can bay a hog every once in awhile, but a HOG DOG makes hogs when other dogs couldn't find their tail. Them kinda dogs you don't make often, you are just their ride to the woods! Although I've only owned my own dogs for just over a year, I've hunted since I was 12, and I'd have to agree with both statements. Blastin your right there are strike dogs out there that'll find their own hog and bay the hair off their back, but just ain't nothing special. And BA-IV I think you're right too cause every hog hunter has seen their fair share of "legends" in either your own yard or on a friends. I personally have only seen 3 but your remark on the owners just being their ride to the woods is spot on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 08:09:59 pm » |
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Any dog can bay a hog every once in awhile, but a HOG DOG makes hogs when other dogs couldn't find their tail. Them kinda dogs you don't make often, you are just their ride to the woods! [/quote]
x2...you are talking about the better hog dogs...once a good line of hog dogs is going good they can be produced regular enough...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 09:17:42 pm » |
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I know guys that'll get rid of a finished dog if they decide it doesn't fit their style, to rough, too loose, number 2s in its bowl, etc. but not for 300$! More like 800 to 2000 if it's trash broke. 300$ sound like a scam, wouldn't happen out here, but you're in hog doggin world down there so what do I know
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WHACK EM N STACK EM!!!
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 09:37:09 pm » |
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A finished dog is a dog you put in front of 10 people that don't know each other and let it hunt. At the end of the hunt those 10 men argue over who is gonna buy it then it's finished. All the rest are just dang good dogs.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2016, 09:26:18 am » |
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Any time I need a good laugh, I enjoy reading through the dog trade section on this sight. Around here, if they ain't workin by eight months of age, they are "finished". The ones that do make hands are fed until the day they are put in the ground, at which point, they are also "finished"
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Catchin hogs cracker style
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Bryant
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2016, 09:29:04 am » |
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The problem with the term is that is has a different meaning for the buyer as it does for the seller.
Buyer: "Finished Dog" - A machine. No BS, Find a hog...bay a hog...catch a hog no matter what. Doesn't fight, loads easily, minds, not too catchy, not to loose baying. Will rig off the hood, cast a half-mile, road a couple hundred yards ahead, or walk nearby. Doesn't trash, except will work cattle only on command. Doesn't eat too much, craps a good-hard turd, no worms, no parasites, and plenty of scars to prove. Preferably under $300.
Seller: "Finished Dog" - Dog not worth a crap...and I'm "finished" messing with it.
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A truly rich man is one whose children rush to fill his arms even though his hands are empty.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2016, 09:49:43 am » |
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Nailed it ^^^
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Take your kids hunting and you wont have to hunt your kids
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2016, 12:19:57 pm » |
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to me its very simple. good dogs go hunting for you, GREAT DOGS go hunting for THEMSELVES. finished tends to be a general term for a dog that strikes consistently and is trashbroke. the term is used a lot more loosely on facebook than here. I also believe a dog isn't truly finished until its dead because it should always be learning how to bay smarter and run a track faster and even run a colder track yaddah yaddah yaddah. I know of 2 dogs ill call great. they both belong to the same man and im currently waiting on a puppy out of them
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We run dillo dogs that trash on hogs
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2016, 04:52:14 pm » |
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If I only had a dollar everytime this thread was started up, I'd have enough money to graduate from natty light to something a bit tastier...
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2016, 05:00:42 pm » |
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Bryant I haven't laughed that hard all day! Preciate it
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2016, 06:06:01 pm » |
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To me a hogdog is a dog that produces hogs no matter where you turn it loose or what you turn it loose with. It has nothing to do with being trash broke or whether or not it will sit or roll over or jump in your truck. It has only to do with if the dog produces hogs consistently and Its a dog that when I turn it loose I EXPECT to go to him bayed. But people have very different standards for dogs. And some dogs only produce according to the situation and the land being hunted. People love to brag about what they are breeding for and what all a dog has to do for them to feed it and how long it has to run and how old a track it has to take but in reality people hunt what they have at the time and if they are smart will hunt a dog to their strength. If a dog is a good track dog you put them on tracks. If a dog is a good rig dog you let him rig. If a dog is a good cast dog you turn him loose where hogs are and let him run. I'd love to have a yard full of dogs that hunt exactly how I want and looked how I want and ran how long I want and everything else in every situation but that only happens on the internet. I don't reference any dog as finished, to me that's a dumb term with way too many variables. But I do call a dog a HOGDOG if he earns it.
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hillbilly
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2016, 10:20:33 am » |
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Chainrated can you have a hogdog by the age 1 1/2 or under 2?
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I aint Chainrated but I will give you an answer to what I think. Yes i believe a dog can be a hogdog before it is 2 years old. But like I said befroe a dog is not finished until it is dead. A dog is always learning in my eyes.
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BA-IV
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2016, 11:09:51 am » |
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If you hunt hard and feed a dog tracks, you can make a hog dog. I've seen young dogs 12-14 months old take and grind on a cold track and bay a hog consistently. They still have faults and mess up, but man is it easier feeding a young starting dog that loves to bay big hogs!
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