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« on: April 18, 2016, 09:47:40 am »

Let's see what you're using to put the breaks on some of these running a** hogs. How are they bred, and how do they hunt
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 10:32:42 am »

Mine is a pit x cur mix named grizz. My Swiss army knife of hog dogs. Can be hunted like a one out finder holder and has found about a dozen that way. Can be used as a RCD to stop runners or as just a lead in catch dog when hunting with long range loose dogs. If casted he hunts 2-500 yard range. Hunts really well when roaded or walked too. Can't post pics but number is 254-541-0068 if you want to text me and I'll send pics Art if you can post.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 12:33:19 pm »

We hunt in pine plantations with black berrys grown up in them and they are thick as it gets.  More than once I have entered a bay only to see a real good boar hog break and blow thru them berry vines and saplings so fast I hardly knew which way he went and it takes the dogs a few seconds themselves.  This is a senerio I personally see no solution to.   Now in open woods or fields the dogs can surely run one down and put teeth on him but in these thickets he is just gone in a blink of an eye and the dogs are to far behind to do much about it within seconds.   On occasion they only go a few hundred yards and catch or Bay but I know for a fact my dogs didn't "stop" him and most likely he just just squatted and they found him again.  There is a big difference in how some folks view their dogs work.  I'm not saying some dogs can't physically run a hog down in this terrain and put teeth in his behind but I know mine can't so we just do the best we can.  Often times if the hog has no intentions of stopping he will get away but occasionally we can out last him and wear him out and get him bayed but we've got to get a little lucky.  That is about as true as I can tell it and I am very interested in this topic because I do see these running SOB'a as an extremergency inconvenience and would like to find a solution.  Look forward to hearing what everyone uses to neutralize these hogs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2016, 01:15:25 pm »

I got some curs that will latch on no matter where there at water thickit don't matter the tricky part is in a open patch water or field the hog is toast. But in the super thick stuff the hog can get the dogs in a bind and scrape em off. I like a smaller type cur that can mover better with gritt to make that sucker stop then one of them curs that catch get there and he might be done. Now only way I see is to up your odds is dog that don't quit and or dog that don't give a dam. Other than that it's 100% up to the hog your on when and if he will bay up for you. No fool proof method just better game plan with good dogs is where the rubber hit the road


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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2016, 01:38:20 pm »

So how do you dog Bay Judge or dog they just catch on sight?   I can't have RCD's because my dogs don't just find hogs that are under my feet and it might take me a while to cover the ground to get to them and get control of the hog for their safety.   I need to be able to control when they catch so I can be there.  We are talking about "stopping" hogs, not just mauling them to death.  By the way, were you suggesting my dogs are quitting hogs that run?
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2016, 01:45:52 pm »

We have had a lot of good luck with real catchy dogs right there when the strike is made.  If the hog ever gets the chance to run from the get go that is when the odds get bad for your dogs.  With that said a lot of dogs are bay breaking ruff dogs that just think they want some till the big boar hands him his ass and he backs off and the hog takes off in a split second.  I've had those dogs am sure most have.  The dogs there when the strike is made have to have their minds made up its you are me Am gonna nail you butt to the wall are die trying.  Also you need dogs that complement this type of dogs so when the first hit is made its a swarm.  If he ever gets a loose that's when it becomes a marathon.  These kind of dogs are for some and some they ain't.  I love myself.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2016, 01:54:43 pm »

Not at all bro I ain't talking bout your dogs I am talking bout mine. As far as my dogs catching a running hog I have had them caught a long ways off  its part of the game I have said many many times my dogs are short range if a dog hunts out 1/2 mile and not on something I have no use for that kind of dog I like mine to hunt 500 or less. I have had dogs caught mile and half away you just got to hammer down and do what you got to do what I do and how I do it ain't for every one but it's what I do. Now it has bit me in the butt few times but for the most part it a ok. There is more then one way to do all things so I respect all ways of doing it.


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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2016, 01:56:51 pm »

Those are the dogs I put on the ground if I want a caught hog. I will take ol Leroy in open country keep in the box and if one is breaking and baying I will send him to make em act right now it don't always work but it serves me good


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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2016, 02:12:18 pm »

Am the same way judge.  I like a dog that hunts 500 yards and less.  I don't need a dog now days that hunts a mile mile half out my lands to small besides I have went back to the ruffer types of dogs.  The only draw back is like you said if the get some where I can't get to them .  Now days I make sure before I hunt a place where I can go and where I can't before a dog is turned loose.  I have some looser dogs for them types of bigger places but I perfer my ruff dogs and places.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2016, 02:19:50 pm »

these 2 get together right here, ain't much baying gonna happen. Red gyp is cur x lacy (as far as I know) she's pretty rough but smart, if I run her without a cut collar she will back up, put a vest on and she's gonna try anything. The brindle dog is an old east Texas cur, brindle cur, pit, and supposedly whippet hound are all in there somewhere. He doesn't have a bark in him.


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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2016, 03:29:42 pm »

I feel the same way about them pine plantation thickets or any thick thicket for that matter no kinda dog I have ever seen ain't running a hog down in there that no matter how bad they want to the hog will have to want to stop if they stop in in there. I have seen and know there are some dogs that can run em down and put teeth i n em in open woods or field I have been around some dogs that is not fastest enough to do it there either.

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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2016, 03:44:53 pm »

I'm on the other end of the stick. I was curious if loose bay would come up. 1 dog out, loose bay. No cut down. Less dogs killed. If hog does decide to move out, I've had better success of hog setting back up sooner. Till I can get a bulldog there. I could imagine my dogs getting out of pocket and catch out. My places are to small and sometimes get on next properties. 1 loose dog is my method of stopping a runner lol
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2016, 03:47:31 pm »

I couldn't imagine.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2016, 03:59:02 pm »

Judge that's some good looking dogs really like that leapord dog.  Slim that nice looking dogs too
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2016, 04:01:37 pm »

I have caught good many hogs with just one really loose baying dog I think some hogs do set up better like that and some that don't I know some people that just hunt one or 2 loose baying dogs and catch some big hogs
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2016, 04:16:33 pm »

Nice dogs fellas. Mine are cur cat cross and a cat male. All are loose. My cat male would be Cobb ruff if with another, but I've tried my hardest to keep em loose. Nothing against ruff dogs tho. My good buddy runs rough stock. He catches good hogs, but gets way more cuts downs on his stock.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2016, 04:54:37 pm »

Smart fast rough dogs that bay if needed and make a hog pay for trying to run catch with another dog or when I show up.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2016, 05:03:08 pm »

I feel the same way about them pine plantation thickets or any thick thicket for that matter no kinda dog I have ever seen ain't running a hog down in there that no matter how bad they want to the hog will have to want to stop if they stop in in there. I have seen and know there are some dogs that can run em down and put teeth i n em in open woods or field I have been around some dogs that is not fastest enough to do it there either.

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 To tell the truth Judge and THD, you guys dogs aren't "stopping" hogs they are mauling them on sight.  There is a big difference in dogs that find and bay hogs and dogs that find and catch hogs.    Both work fine and it's up to hunter preference but the topic is about "stopping" hogs that run.   I thought I was going to hear a out dogs that could run one down and "stop" him in his tracks.   Anyone on this site can throw together a gang of alligators and maul hogs in places the hogs are thick.   
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2016, 05:42:43 pm »

Ummm last i checked catching a hog is the same as stopping him. You just love stirring chit. Completely worthless
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2016, 05:55:21 pm »

Lol


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