When is right age to put bark collar on pup?

[cowboyup]

I've got 2 six month old pups that literally bark constantly at anything and everything. Could I go ahead and put bark collars on them? My concern is that in doing this they will never want to bark at a pig again. I thought about working them real hard on the treadmill but I don't know if that would be as effective.

[l.h.cracker]

I almost ruined a young dog with a bark collar it took several times in a bay pen with silent baying lol before she decided to come back around.I now only use a bark collar on bulldogs.

[bignasty]

One dog feeds off anothers actions.if these 2 are in the same kennle seperate them .put up barriers so they cant see.

[justincorbell]

Show them a pig multiple times and praise them for baying, make it clear that they are doing right and that pigs are what they are supposed to bay. Then put the collar on em at the house, they will learn the difference.

[cowboyup]

One dog feeds off anothers actions.if these 2 are in the same kennle seperate them .put up barriers so they cant see.

They are actually chained next to each other. So maybe put up barricades to where they can't see each other? Is that what you mean?

[bignasty]

One dog feeds off anothers actions.if these 2 are in the same kennle seperate them .put up barriers so they cant see.

They are actually chained next to each other. So maybe put up barricades to where they can't see each other? Is that what you mean?

try it

[cowboyup]

Alright.

[Cajun]

Every pup I raise, I raise running loose until they or 5 or 6 months old & then I chain them. I give them a couple of days of raising hell & I put the shock collar on them a day ahead. I go out there & when they bark I tell them no. If they bark again, I bump them. It does not take them long & they learn to shut up. I try to stay with it & my older dogs no better then to bark for no reason.

[CHRIS H.]

Every pup I raise, I raise running loose until they or 5 or 6 months old & then I chain them. I give them a couple of days of raising hell & I put the shock collar on them a day ahead. I go out there & when they bark I tell them no. If they bark again, I bump them. It does not take them long & they learn to shut up. I try to stay with it & my older dogs no better then to bark for no reason.

Interesting .. You say that Cajun

I just stayed the weekend with a pro that lets his pups Rome around too . It helps with the dogs mental development of independence .

This week hopefully I'm going to run my pup a litter mate that was raised on his yard . Same litter except one was raised to run free for 6 months . While mine traveled around America with me to different field trials events and got put on wild birds on days I could

The only advantage I have over the other dog and it's a pretty big one is my dog knows the property

Do you think a non stop barkin dog is genetic ? Have you ever noticed a dog that won't stop and sure enough it's momma or daddy was like that too ?

[Goose87]

I do the same as Cajun by letting my pups run loose, I occasionally lock them up and when they start raising cane I'll spray them with a hose a yell hush, sometimes I kick the side of the pen if I really need to get their attention, my older dogs know the routine and most of the time all i have to do is yell hush and you can hear a pen drop, even with feeding, I keep a 4' piece of water hose in my dog yard, if me yelling doesn't do the trick I'll slap something with it making a racket and yell hush, very seldom does it take more that one encounter with Mr. Hose and they're back in tune.

Chris I'm going to but in and give a reply as well, I think certain behaviors are inherited just the same as some working styles, I've have a gyp that I raised 7 pups out of I kept 4, tie'emuporleave'em on here got one, and the owner of the sire got 2, not sure how Nic's act, I have 2 that are wound up all the time, my father I law has 2 he uses on cows and are the same, the guy who owned the sire has one that is really wound and one that just lays around all the time, the mother to these pups is a live wire 24/7 and the sire was a calm dog, but with that being said all the ones wound up like the dam and her as well have had handles put on them so the barking isn't that much of an issue. If a dog is an extremely excessive barker and is just hard headed, I have to take a good long hard look if what they bring to the table is worth the annoyance, if they are then adjustments will be made but if not then they're organic fertilizer or on someone else's feed bill.

[Goose87]

And to add, I can vouch for what Cajun said, I've seen it personally while visiting with him.

[Cajun]

Chris, I really believe it is genetic. I started a long time ago with two strains of Plotts, Weems & Swampland (which goes back to Weems). The Weems were super hyper & barked a lot while the Swampland dogs were more laid back. Now all of them barked when they were first put on a chain but the Swampland dogs were easier to break from barking. Even to this day, 30 years or so later, I still get both types. That being said, they can all be broke if you apply the time. I don't have time to listen to 15-20 dogs barking. It would drive me nuts. Life is too short. I go off to bear camps & hear other peoples  dog's bark all night. That does not bother me all that much but if I hear mine, I want to know the reason why. It takes a little while but by being persistent anybody can keep their dogs quiet.
  If I hear all my dogs fire up, it is because of a south wind & I know they are winding th hog in my running pen. All I do is yell no & they get quiet.
  As far as pups running loose, you do not have to let them run loose to have a good dog but it requires a lot more exposure on the part of the owner to get his dogs out . Running loose day in & day out, those pups are using their nose 24/7 & they learn at a much faster rate.

[CHRIS H.]

Thanks for the response y'all ! A lot of what was said lines out with what I was told by the old dog man


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Sorry didn't mean to hi-jack the post but I think there's some good info in that

[Judge peel]

I shock my dogs as little as possible I want there decision to be there own when they are asked. But when I do shock em I bare down on em so they remember. But I let them bark at the house when ever they want to bark I let them be a dog but when I want them to hush they better. I know every one has there own opinions on all things this just how I do things a BB gun will work wonders to just shoot there dog house and tell them to hush they will get it


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[justincorbell]

I shock my dogs as little as possible I want there decision to be there own when they are asked. But when I do shock em I bare down on em so they remember. But I let them bark at the house when ever they want to bark I let them be a dog but when I want them to hush they better. I know every one has there own opinions on all things this just how I do things a BB gun will work wonders to just shoot there dog house and tell them to hush they will get it


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I am pretty much on the same page as you as far as them carrying on a bit here and there during the day, after all they are dogs. BUT I wont tolerate one that is raising hell nonstop because he is ticked off that he is on a chain.  I rarely use a shock collar myself, I prefer the Red Rider, that 25$ BB gun works wonders around my place. By the time my pups are old enough to go on a chain they are all well aware of what the rattling of the BB gun means and will shut up pretty quick with nothing but a shake or two of the gun 

[liefalwepon]

So shooting with the red Ryder doesn't make them gun shy, if they're on a hog and you take aim with a lever action do they all take cover?


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[Judge peel]

Don't know never shot a hog over my dogs but I would think it would be hard if there hanging off ears lol.


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[CHRIS H.]

So shooting with the red Ryder doesn't make them gun shy, if they're on a hog and you take aim with a lever action do they all take cover?


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I thought the same about BB guns and it relating to a shotgun while running  bird dogs .. But it's pretty  common with  nuisance barking bird dogs

I'm thinking dogs are smarter then given credit .. They know the differences between when they're working and when they're barking at the moon in  a kennel or on chain .

All that being said I don't do it cause sure enough I'd have a dog switch from finding quail to finding my trailer to hide under !  hahahaha

[justincorbell]

So shooting with the red Ryder doesn't make them gun shy, if they're on a hog and you take aim with a lever action do they all take cover?


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If i shoot a hog in front of mine i have to make damn sure i hit it, i dont know why but for some reason when i shoot over my dogs (very rarely) they go nuts and pile on the hog......never taught em that and i dont much care for it but like i said, i rarely shoot over em so its not usually an issue.

[Slim9797]

I'm a fan of the red Ryder. After my pups know Forsure what a hog is. I turn them out in the pasture and let them have their fun with the cows. And the red Ryder gets used until they no longer want to bark at cows


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