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« on: June 12, 2016, 12:29:45 am » |
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I'm in need of opinions.
I'm getting a hog dog. But I can't have a pack of dogs. Essentially what I'm looking for is a single dog that can trail, find, and bay a hog. Until I can arrive on scene and either shoot or spear it. Depending on the situation I find. But I don't want him to try to catch the hog and he will be working alone.
I have some ideas about which bred would be best suited for this. But I want to hear opinion from other, more experienced hunters.
Thanks
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 12:52:05 am » |
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It isn't the breed you are looking for. It is the dog that will do the job.
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Reuben
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 10:16:56 am » |
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It isn't the breed you are looking for. It is the dog that will do the job.
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I agree...my choice will be the right mt cur or plott/cur cross... But any breed that has hunt...nose and bottom that can do it alone... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 01:41:07 pm » |
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If I was in that situation all id want is 1 good ol east texas curr dog and a 30 30.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 03:49:12 pm » |
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Well, I have the 30-30. Lol!
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 03:52:30 pm » |
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Thanks for the thoughts! I'm hearing Plott more and more, and I'm leaning that way as of now.
As I've mentioned before, I'm new to hog dogging and still getting used to all the terminology. What does 'bottom' mean?
I hear that a lot.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 04:33:00 pm » |
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Bottom is what takes the dog to the end of the track be it 1 or 40 miles. It is his want to. His stamina. His desire to finish the job.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2016, 06:07:34 pm » |
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Gotcha. You're right. Nothing else matters if they quit on you.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2016, 06:08:27 pm » |
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If I could only have one dog it would be a gooden
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2016, 09:04:42 pm » |
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If I was going to hunt one dog it would be one that would catch a hundred pound pig and under and bay anything bigger
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If I was going to run one dog I would want one that would bay very loose putting no pressure on the hog . Once the hog stops the dog would back way off and just bark .
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You just described pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. Great nose, great drive and endurance, bay and hold till I get there.
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Judge peel
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All jokes aside if your brand new to this I would suggest you hunt a dozen times with some one with that type of dog cuz you might be looking for something you don't want. That type of dog will get gone be gone and stay gone and if your new at this it might just be more then you want if you are on foot or got a small place or what ever the case may be. Every one wants that type of dog no matter what they say but lot of times it ain't practical
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alot of factor in getting a hog dog is the place you have to hunt not nessarly how you want to hunt, if you want to hunt a long range cast dog but only have 200 acres its not gonna work out good. you just have to look out side the box
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I would have a 40 lb plott female with a good nose and as fast as I could get her. All day stick- sit back and bay all day, bit one in the butt if he runs type dog. Really tough feet, ability to work in heat. Chop/bawl mouth, medium to stalky build.
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since you said one dog and you may take hog with spear ... I'd think you would want a tight bay'n perty good sized dog ..... you don't sound like you want to run hogs for miles like some of us do hahahaha ...
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Well, at least I can stop googling 'gooden' now.  The few times I've been out I've been with that type of dog. So, to the extent I'm familiar with any of this, I'm familiar with that. But you bring up an excellent point. I'm looking at some Plots out of White Deer. I hear (as a breed, not necessarily out of White Deer) they range out to anywhere from 800-1500 yards. I don't mind walking, but we could be in store for a lot of 1 hog days at that rate. Does that range sound about right? Based on what you know/know of Plotts? |
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Sign me up for this. I've been thinking a lot about getting a female. The breeder at White Deer said they were better with kids, less territorial.
Also, and I don't know if this is true with hog dogs. But from my background in bird dogging I can say the females tend to be a ton more focused, far less easily distracted, and generally easier to handle.
Do you find that to be true?
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Haha! I'll run wherever they take me but I hear you. Tight baying with an occasional bite to redirect the hog. Bite on the ass if he runs. That kind of thing.
The spear is an 'if I get the perfect opportunity" thing. Or, if we happen to be hunting in a group. I'll have a pistol if not.
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Good points.
I'll be primarily in national forest land. Except for SHNF, obviously. I might be able to hunt some ranches and farms in Montgomery. Still working on that. But those properties are pretty spacious.
Curious though, what's your idea of long range? I'm looking at Plotts out of White Deer in Fredericksburg. I'm hearing anywhere from 800-1500 yards is what those dogs typically run. What's considered long range?
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