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« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2017, 07:16:05 am » |
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t - shelly what is a perry dog ? where come from ? wondering of its the same perry I knew from years ago ? your mellman side come from the mellmans ?
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« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2017, 07:25:35 am » |
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Great thread guys......Something to consider....... - I share a couple of spots with some Coon hunting buddies that run open hounds. They hunt the spots more frequently than we do. We run silent cur dogs. The hogs seem to bay up pretty easy for us when we hunt these places. - Have the hogs become conditioned to hearing dogs bark that are not pursuing them OR do these particular hogs just not want to run? I don't know the answer. I assure you that our dogs aren't anything special. We catch our fair share but we get out run on other places more than I like to admit! Lol! - My opinion is that most hog hunters like silent dogs that only bark when they see the hog because they make it easier for the hunter to know what the dogs are doing. It takes patience, experience, and at times a little imagination to know exactly what an open trailing dog is doing.
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« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2017, 07:35:57 am » |
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t - shelly what is a perry dog ? where come from ? wondering of its the same perry I knew from years ago ? your mellman side come from the mellmans ?
http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=34855Perry side comes from above and yes. Lloyd and herschell traded dogs all the time with the mellmans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2017, 10:46:30 am » |
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Semmes said a mouthful......When I hunted hard and had alot of dogs, I would have a lot of people call and tell me that they wanted a dog that would get gone, find a hog no matter what it took, run him for 1/2 the day and into the night, and be bayed when you got to him. I got to where my patent answer was ....."dogs like that are way more fun to talk about and brag about than they are to unsnap in the woods" Just food for thought.
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« Reply #64 on: February 10, 2017, 12:31:55 pm » |
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hey heat that joe dog I had would run all day ..you could not catch him off the track ...he'd go three hundred yards around you pick the track back up and gone ......people would ask me you been hunt'n joe I'd say man I like knowing I own one like him but I'd rather just look at him on the chain most of the time ...
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« Reply #65 on: February 10, 2017, 12:40:25 pm » |
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not the same perry I knew .....I haven't heard of those dogs .......
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« Reply #66 on: February 10, 2017, 04:08:03 pm » |
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No sir they're not open but Holly was a little yippee when she first started striking her own she has since quited up but she was the dog that my buddies said I should cull because she was yippin.
10-4 Just got back from Florida on Wednesday and finally got aholt of a pup from kin. Pics to come in next few days.
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« Reply #67 on: February 10, 2017, 07:01:38 pm » |
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Semmes said a mouthful......When I hunted hard and had alot of dogs, I would have a lot of people call and tell me that they wanted a dog that would get gone, find a hog no matter what it took, run him for 1/2 the day and into the night, and be bayed when you got to him. I got to where my patent answer was ....."dogs like that are way more fun to talk about and brag about than they are to unsnap in the woods" Just food for thought.
I like those kind of dogs and you are right...these dogs will run most of the day and part of the night...the best thing has been the Garmin alpha when hunting this type of dog... As some have said...you can tone them in but you can't make them hunt...hunting those high powered dogs can be very stressful because of all the properties they cross and not to mention when you get them back...but the alpha really has made hunting these type of dogs pleasurable... Open dogs...I have seen where the dogs will jump and run a hog and me standing there in the area listening to the dogs until out of hearing...and only then I have seen hogs that were laying low get up and slink away silently...seen it more than a few times...hogs will react differently in different areas as well...some is genetics and terrain...and dog education has a lot to do with it...
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« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2017, 02:02:09 am » |
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I don't know a lot about hounds but when I got my best dog he was 1/4 English and silent he had an ok nose but really had a lot of hunt and I started catching hogs more often by the time he was 2 he was everything I wanted we crossed him to my brothers silent red tick she doesn't have a cold nose but a decent nose and good stick. The pups now are a little over a year and I really like them they do trail bark but not like some I have seen it has to be hot sign and usually they get bayed fairly fast if the hog breaks they bark all the way while running it we were able to watch them the other day cross a high line a couple times behind a 265lb boar they did get behind a ways about 10 min but the hog was going through some bad thickets but after about 45 mins of relentless pursuit he had enough and stopped. I got to say the dogs I have now hunt harder wider and have more stick and a little better nose than the curs I have hunted in the past I even bought an older gyp that's open on track we catch a lot more hogs these days with the hound cur crosses I recon I would have stuck with the curs if I would have found some that hunt like these crosses sooner but those are hard to come by where I live I have to admit I kind of like hearing them trail bark now but don't get me wrong I don't like one that barks from the minute it hits the ground I have no use for a dog than barks from the minute its dropped then comes back to the wheeler if its gonna bark it had better get bayed. So in ending I guess trail barking was a by product in my case and so far hasn't been an issue but I guess mainly because they don't trail for miles they usually aren't far behind where they been there are different degrees of everything and I could see where a dog trailing a hog 2 miles away could give it a good head start and lead to a long race but with an open dog that isn't cold nosed and fairly fast it should well make up for the barking. These are just my opinions and experience's .
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« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2017, 08:42:59 am » |
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I hunted hogs with curs, not because they were silent, but because they got the job done to suit me. The old myth of dogs trail barking scaring all the hogs away is BS. Over the many years of hunting, I have hunted with many people with open dogs and I never felt it changed the outcome of a hunt. On a hunt in west Texas with a friend that hunted Plotts, we caught 28 hogs in two mornings on the same place. I caught 4 hogs one morning with an old hound running around opening but going nowhere and never got off 200 acres. The hound never made it to a bay. I could go on and on. If they are not getting the job done, open or silent, they are just not good enough. The same thing go's for breaking bay. If nearly all the hogs you get on are breaking bay, your dogs are causing it. The last few years I hunted, the vast majority of hogs that broke, did so right before the catch dog got to them. The hog would meet the dog head on at full speed and steam roll them. That's like sending a pickup to catch an on coming freight train. The truck looses every time. You young hunters that are not set in your ways, don't miss out on a good dog because he is open. If he's a good one, he will get the job done.
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« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2017, 09:00:40 pm » |
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If he's wide open, and finding hogs...well y'all PM me cuz I'll sure take em off your hands and feed em
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« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2017, 11:02:39 pm » |
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Ol mouthy stock put another 50 head down this weekend Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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« Reply #72 on: February 26, 2017, 11:08:05 pm » |
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« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2017, 09:02:34 am » |
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most people don't have 50 head of hogs on all the land they have to hunt ,,,,
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« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2017, 09:36:44 am » |
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https://youtu.be/LxH6W8HbwwsBack when we track hunted and didn't hunt as much country up north. Pretty cool little video, you have to watch it on a computer though. Doesn't play on cell phones Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2017, 09:45:20 am » |
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It actually play on your phone if you have the YouTube app.
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« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2017, 10:03:37 am » |
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good video ...don't know if I would use universals logo though ....... is there any briar patches where ya'll hunt ?....most every good hog we catch you can't hardly see anything ...
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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2017, 10:09:04 am » |
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Yeah it's mostly youpon. These are just the videos I had on old cell phones. We hunt tons of pine plantation, briar and youpon thickets but you can't even get any video in there
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« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2017, 08:06:58 pm » |
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ol mouthy stock put another 50 head down this weekend Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe my eyes are messed up but I thought that list showed 33 not 50... Where'd the other 17 go?
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« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2017, 05:16:41 am » |
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ol mouthy stock put another 50 head down this weekend Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe my eyes are messed up but I thought that list showed 33 not 50... Where'd the other 17 go? 33 over 50#'s! We caught another 20 shoats throughout the weekend in all the chaos Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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