March 28, 2024, 05:13:28 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: ETHD....WE'RE ALL ABOUT HOG DOGGIN!
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: For you Alfa or Garmin gurus  (Read 1035 times)
Cajun
Lord of the Hogs
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2919


View Profile
« on: June 20, 2017, 05:40:03 pm »

  I was trying to figure out how far the Marathon hog had run. Clyde & Deacon had a hair over 10 miles & had averaged about 7 mph when we relayed them & picked them up. For the next 6 hours r so, until we caught the hog all the dogs had averaged 5-5 1/2 mph. we started this hog at 6;15am & caught him at 2:45pm. They were probably bayed for 1/2 hour before we got in there so that means they were running for about 8 hours.  If my calculations are right, just going 8 hours by 5.5mph, that totals 44 miles. Probably a little more if you consider Clyde & Deacon were averaging 7 mph but I just went 5.5 across the board. What do yall think? I know people believe a hog cannot run but this was in thick cutover & I believe he was just trotting ahead of the dogs & was only pressured when we relayed fresh dogs in the race.
Logged

Bayou Cajun Plotts
Happiness is a empty dogbox
Relentless pursuit
Mike
Administrator
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10273



View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2017, 07:19:17 pm »

That sounds about right. I've always gone by the distance each dog travels... if a bay breaks or one is jumped, I'll glance at each dogs stats and again after it's caught.
Logged

Slim9797
Hog Master
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1807



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2017, 09:38:46 am »

I see people all the time talk about these insanely long races. I'd love to see one because in my part of the world I've never seen dogs stick a hog past 10 miles worth of tracks. Small acreage and woods predominantly following creeklines equal straight line runner ands inability to get ahead and dump fresh dogs into the race.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged

We run dillo dogs that trash on hogs
Cajun
Lord of the Hogs
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2919


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2017, 10:58:31 am »

Slim, we were on a 12000 acre lease & believe me, we used up almost all of it. Did not know it when we started but when he kept running the same pattern & crossed at the same places as the hog we ran the day before I knew it was the same hog. That helped a bunch because we knew where to go to pack in fresh dogs. Good thing we tired him out the day before, otherwise we might not have caught him. lol
  We have another boar in there about 175# that has beat us twice. We get him started in the same place & have seen him twice & he uses the same crossings but high water beat us last time & we could not get around. I love running hogs like this. Get to hear a good race & the dogs get a good work out.
Logged

Bayou Cajun Plotts
Happiness is a empty dogbox
Relentless pursuit
hillcountry
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 279



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2017, 12:34:29 pm »

You can come on up to the northern Hillcountry and get all you want slim but make shure you want what you get!. That's a pretty good race you had there sir. We spent a few nights staring at the old garmin with uncle JP and peach haven't we cousin mike?. These sob's up here run like deer and swim like fish. And these hills would make the man from snowy river sh...... His pants.
Logged

If your scared you can ride in my pocket.
Mike
Administrator
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10273



View Profile WWW
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 03:07:39 pm »

Yes sir... I've spent many an hour staring at the ol Garmin screen. That's the main reason I started tone training all my dogs when I used to hunt in the evenings after work. About 10:00 or so I was on the button calling them off a race... those 1:00 to 3:00 AM weeknight hunts were getting hard on an old man haha.
Logged

Slim9797
Hog Master
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1807



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2017, 11:29:10 am »

I've hunted up around Lampasas. Lometa, gatesville area. Hogs run everywhere. Hogs have probably always ran. That garmin just lets you be privy to it now. Hogs are pretty well rounded athletes and are capable of some things most people wouldn't think a "hog" could do. But I don't see a hog of any shape, size, color, or geographical origin, Running 44 miles in a day. That's the length of the drive from my house in Schulenburg, to sealy tx. That's damn near 2 full marathons. Hogs cannot thermoregulate well enough to do near that without long periods of rest and wallowing. Atleast that's what all the reading and research I've done has said. Ain't calling nobody a liar, but I sure got my own opinion


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged

We run dillo dogs that trash on hogs
Judge peel
Hog Doom
*********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4859



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 12:21:07 pm »

I have seen some long races. But hogs do run every where I know that for a fact some hogs will get dog smart and know all they have to do is out last the dog. Every thing on earth has a stopping point some are just further along then others. I learned a long time ago just because you don't thinks it's true don't mean it ain't


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged
Mike
Administrator
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10273



View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2017, 12:35:37 pm »

Slim, I've run hogs 20 and 30 plus miles more times than I can remember... all over the state. It's not continuous running, they get ahead of the dogs, hit a mud hole, catch their breath... dogs catch up and off to the races again. It's always in thick country where a dog can't use its speed... the hog always has the advantage. When the dogs can light a fire under one, that's when they bay quick... a hog can't run at full speed for very far.
Logged

Cajun
Lord of the Hogs
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2919


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2017, 08:51:53 pm »

What Mike says is true. The hog uses the terrain to his advantage. Also true, Hogs today no matter where they are at have been dogged by somebody. For the most part, Open virgin timber is a thing of the past & cutovers are more common, here anyway. We have also had enough rain where there is water everywhere which cools the hog & dogs. If your dogs have enough stick, they will register some very long races if they want to run & basicly they get ahead & stay in that trot which is hard to break a hog down. Maybe some of those researchers might learn a thing or two if he hunts with a hoghunter who has dogs with bottom. As far as you saying hogs cannot do it, you are merely speculating because you have never seen it done.  What amazes me is how far some of those hogs run, that have outrun us. lol
Logged

Bayou Cajun Plotts
Happiness is a empty dogbox
Relentless pursuit
Big Game Joe
Catch Dog
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 107


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2017, 09:37:10 pm »

  What amazes me is how far some of those hogs run, that have outrun us. lol
  You got that right Cajun. Maybe we'll get a chance this weekend, to settle the score with the boar that has outrun us twice before.  Shocked
Logged
Reuben
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
**********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9461


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2017, 10:29:42 pm »

People with short range dogs will tell you hogs don't run far...hogs can run in the heat for hours and can outlast a pack of dogs...it has already has been said here and I agree...and I have said it for many years and more folks speak the same nowadays...hogs have the advantage because they will run as fast as needed to get ahead and then lay up in the thickest of thickets and when the dogs get near break and run again to the next thicket...hogs can bust right through and dogs loose ground in these thickets and then repeat these steps again and again for hours...

Another thing is that the easy hogs get caught and the runners run to breed another day...evolution at its best...so we breed better and faster dogs...mother nature culls the slower hogs better than we breed better dogs...lol
Logged

Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
Judge peel
Hog Doom
*********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4859



View Profile
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2017, 06:37:26 am »

I got short range dogs and I know hogs run any thing being chased will run lol. Short or rangy don't matter they got to have stick. A little grit and speed will keep most from running to far but then you have them no stop hogs. To catch them you need above average dogs and or game plan different tactics will determine how far he can go or how far you can go dumping fresh dogs will keep it going as long as he can run if you have the property to keep rolling


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!