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Slim9797
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« on: July 09, 2017, 10:21:28 am »

Just for sake of discussion, I want to see what everyone thinks they would feed if all they could keep were 5 dogs. I live right inside the city limits so 12-15 like I used to have just isn't feasible, not to mention I think when you keep a smaller yard, you make it a little easier to obtain quality and really see what your feeding a little quicker(once you have what you call quality dogs a little bigger yard works out. Again my opinion only) but anyway I have 5 kennels, currently have 5 dogs. Only 1 is a sure enough dog and she is the real deal, but she just stroked on me the other day so it will be a while until I get to see if she's going to be right or if she'll be retired and getting bred. I do not own a bulldog, I enjoy baying and shooting hogs but during the summer it really limits me as night hunting scares me though I've been successful and though there were a few reasons my Kate dogs stroked, 90% of them being my fault, I can't help but think If I'd have had a bulldog to send to her rather than her getting left bayed for 1.5 hours in the afternoon heat, she'd probably never stroked. So I'm contemplating on a bulldog. The other dogs I feed are a year old cat pup out of good blood I'm fond of, she's doing real well and when she matures and flips that switch she should be a fine dog. I feed a 2 yr old wipeout bred freeing walker that I made the mistake of letting my younger brother call his or she'd have already been culled. She was on the right track and then got bred accidentally while I was on the road working, since then she ain't been right. I've got a half cat half pit male that's 2 coming 3 and he's a cull, and he will be gone soon. And then I feed a male pup from that walker bitch, he at 6 months old will fire off at a hog and is my pack around dog and I like him so he's staying for now.... so given the circumstances what would y'all ideally feed. Logic tells me 4 bay dogs and a bulldog is what makes sense. Could have 2 rough bay, 2 Loose bay, and a bulldog and probably be able to do well.


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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2017, 10:51:09 am »

first if you left that female baying for 1.5 hours in the heat and she stroked out she probably would have died if you sent that bulldog because she probably would of helped out..I am assuming you were not able to make it there because it was unaccessable...unless it was a bay that kept breaking then getting close and turning in the bulldog would more than likely have worked...just about everytime it is the good ones that stroke out because they don't have any quit in them...contrary to what many say she will hunt well again...so she is definetely a keeper.

Wipeout walker...if she has enough wipeout in her she probably will throw some pups that one day you will brag about and remember for the rest of your life...

keeping five dogs in town is doable but you need to do a few things...keep the dog kennels clean and poop shoveled out every day...I use a five gallon bucket from home depot that has a lid on it...I line it with a kitchen trash bag and dump it twice a week when the trash is picked up...

don't allow the dogs to back much...I have dogs that come by or cats that walk behind the open area so the dogs want to bark and raise cane...I keep a red rider ready to shut them up...once may not stop the behavior following up 3 or 4 times will eventually train the dogs...when you walk out the back door do not acknowledge the dogs if they bark for attention...correct them but do not walk up to the kennels and pet the dogs...only do this when they are silent and they will learn that barking will not get them anywhere...if you get on to them for barking and then you walk up and pet them then you are training this behavior (encouraging them to bark) without you realizing it...

I have a 6 foot privacy fence on each side of me and a 6 ft chain link to the south so the dogs get a good breeze in the summer...

years back I had seven dogs and 3 or 4 pups that were 6 months or so...lots of work but kept pups as long as possible to decide which to keep...

not trying to get off subject just trying to help out in this way to keep any negative attention away from you so you can keep your dogs in the city...

for me it is not about baying 10 or 20 hogs...I love my bay busters...lol, so I keep that type of dogs... no quit and bring a big boar to bay if it takes 4 hours in the heat...



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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2017, 11:00:21 am »

I am not sure why you think a bull dog would have saved her? If you could not get to them for that long you would have probably just had two dead dogs on your hands instead of only one stroked out one. Maybe there is some other part of the incident I am missing though. Regardless on to your question.

As for your question it depends on exactly what I wanted to do, but if hunting was most important I would keep 3 loose bay dogs and two bulldogs. I wouldn't mix up my pack that is for sure. That should keep you hunting most of the time, then only the bulldog takes the lumps and you can switch them out as you need. And if possible I would prob keep all the bay dogs one sex well in a perfect world I would prob keep all the dogs one sex so I wouldn't have to worry about any accidental tie ups. Just some thoughts for you.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2017, 02:50:20 pm »

I'd keep 4 that can find and bay hog... not rough, bay busters and 1 bulldog if I was limited to 5. It would be nice to have an extra bulldog in case one is down.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2017, 06:26:05 pm »

Theses a little more to the story on the dog stroking, rather not talk about it, my negligence forced her to go a lot longer than she should have.... anyway, red nose, I'm fond of females, the best 2 dogs I've fed were both females so that's likely a big reason. Soon as I cull this pit cat cross dog only male I'll have is the pup off the walker dog.... Rueben, this walker gyp I have is wipeout top and bottom, There's a 4 page long story behind her i could tell but I don't have her papers because someone before me that had her as a pup hung her papers on another dog. Spoke with the man who bred her in Kentucky and have seen parents papers. She hunts hard as I've seen and is silent on a track, she just don't sell out on a hog lately and she's got so much want to tree it's unreal. Mike, I appreciate a good rough dog, but rough to me isn't catchy, it's "make this sob bay at all cost, and when he does, sit back and hold him" those are my style of dogs. I don't have the country for 30 mile races, that's the reality of it, or I'd own open long range loose hounds cause I love the way they hunt.


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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 06:53:12 pm »

Slim, that's how my dogs are... gritty enough the stop one, but back up and bay. They catch plenty that they know they can handle. But when one wants to run, they'll usually oblige him haha. Rough to me is a catchy type dog... usually a bay buster.

You don't have to have a large place to have a long race either... I've ran hogs for hours on end on smaller properties... round and round and round. If they do get off the place, that's where tone training them comes in handy. We run a big boar last week that got almost a mile off the place before I could turn them back... ended up having to shock one of my young dogs because he didn't want to quit it. But, he knows what the tone means and knows why he was getting shocked.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2017, 12:01:01 pm »

If your hunting alone two loose dogs and a decent bull dog is all you can handle any way.  The less dogs you have the better they will be or the faster you will know you don't want em


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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 02:24:19 pm »

If your hunting alone two loose dogs and a decent bull dog is all you can handle any way.  The less dogs you have the better they will be or the faster you will know you don't want em


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Yeah thats about right. And that's what I was more or less getting at. Less dogs you can get them out more often rather than rotating dogs on individual hunts and a little easier to keep up with and pay attention to individuals. I'm thinking it's about time I get a good bulldog again.


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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2017, 03:02:41 pm »

I only have 5 kennels myself and I keep 2 strike dogs and pup and 2 Bulldogs. It's works for me because I have to be very selective as what dogs get to take up my kennels. I'm not gonna keep a dog that can't find and bay it's own I will use that kennel for a dog that will. I guess that's why I got a bunch of empty kennels lol.


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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2017, 09:26:20 pm »

I have 2 of my originals, recently got an American bulldog who has been making the cut, and if my other original hadn't passed away all I would have is those 3, and probably not the bulldog. I have 2 brindle dogs I'm trying to sell and 2 other youngsters I got from a buddy, trying to see what I want to keep but it's kinda hard for me because I know what I'm missing in my little LB girl and I haven't found it yet. So, basically I've got bleu the "running catch dog, Brie as the find, and the ambull pacman as my current hunting pack. Even though so there's a total of 7 dogs on the yard, I want to find 1 more bay that fits what I want. Unfortunately I may not be giving some of what I've culled/given away/sold the chance I should. I like my current makeup of the rcd, strike, and catch though. They work well together. But I would like to have that 4th as a striker since LB is gone.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2017, 02:36:35 pm »

I'd keep three to four dogs that are capable of pleasing my standards. And one to two Bulldogs depending on the dog. Those that know me that if a bulldog is eating on my yard he/she is a good one. I've had to many turn on dogs and livestock. The 3-4 dogs would be track dogs and would have to be able to find their own and stick with a runner if needed. Tons of bottom and not be a feet warmer. An built right no time for I'll made dogs. One that can pump what ever it is running. But I live in the boondocks and have 12 dogs myself so in reality im feeding junk
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2017, 07:38:48 pm »

well , i hunt horseback and never turn loose but 2 or 3 . i don't own a bulldog .....



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