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Bohogkiller
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« on: December 05, 2017, 04:30:20 pm »

I’m from Navarro county. I’ve had a few dogs get cut this year and I’ve done decent at sewing them up and they’ve healed up nice but I’ve never had anything on hand to numb them. I’d like to be able to use some lidocaine but my vet in Hillsboro won’t sell it to me. Any suggestions? Any place around the county I could get some?


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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 06:35:40 pm »

I can’t help you in what you are asking...but I have found years ago that most cuts don’t need stitching...apply cut heal twice a day and one 500 mg amoxicillin pill a day...the amoxicillin for 7 to 10 days and cut heal until the dog is about healed up...this is painless to the dog...the pill does not need to be forced down the throat just put it in a price of chicken or hamburger...and your dog will see you as his best friend... Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 09:59:36 pm »

I also rarely stitch a dog, especially if they can lick it. If they can't lick it, I put him with another dog.  I had to stitch a dog for a friend a couple years ago that had got hit by a trailer. The fender had taken a BIG flap of skin off the rib area. It was an area aboUT 10 to 12 inches on a dog that was part chow and would bite. I gave her about 3cc of ACE in the muscle. ACE is a drug given to horses to take the edge off.  It made her real relaxed and she let me do the stitching. I got it from the vet without fuss.  BTW I prefer 15 lb monofilament fishing line to suture a dog, anything smaller will usually break when the flesh turns proud. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 06:37:05 am »

I stitch or staple all cuts I usely leave nicks alone it's just what you want to do. If it's just skin it will be ok to leave open I just prefer to close em up. If it's in the muscle that's a whole deferent ball game


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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 02:05:35 pm »

Wash it out when u think about it and wound spray it twice a day and amoxicillin one a day for 5 to ten days and spray and wash tell it's healed they don't need stitches or staples


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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 03:34:53 pm »

Just so I under stand are y'all leaving 6 to 10 cuts open to heal or are y'all talking 2 inch nicks. I just don't see the benefit in leaving open unless u like the dog to look like leather face on Texas chainsaw massacre lol   


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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 04:10:23 pm »

I have used it on big cuts and it works well.
#1 washout cut with Iodine.
#2 dry off wound.
#3 pull up more than what you need in a syringe.
#4 soak the cut with the lidocaine "Seems to help but not necessary.
#5 inject around the cut you don't have to go deep.
#6 wait 5 minutes it will numb I know at least for 20 min
I have some pm me if your interested.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 08:54:20 pm »

If you can find a large animal vet they may sell you some, if it's for livestock  Cool
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 07:13:57 am »

It normally depends on where I am hunting. If in the marsh I tend to leave wounds open. There is so much bacteria in the marsh, it is almost impossible to get the wound clean & it will heal over but then abcess. In dryer ground, I will suture or staple most cuts if they are over two inches.  Things that help. Like said, I give dogs Ace Promazone. Clean the wound as well as possible. Deep puntures I leave open & after cleaning I shoot Tomorrow  down into the wound. I use Tomorrow on all cuts anyway & put most dogs on Chephalexin. I always try to suture muscle together with absorbable sutures & either suture the outside or staple it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 09:22:29 am »

What is tomorrow?  I have to use a buster collar if I stitch or staple or they will remove them.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 09:51:29 am »

Tomorrow is a antibiotic cream used for Mastitis in cows. It might be called something else around different parts of the country but any feed store will carry something for Mastitis in cows. Our Tractor supply carries it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2017, 01:26:38 pm »

There's two different types, Today and one called Tomorrow, slight variations in them, I use the Tomorrow myself, dang good stuff to have around....
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2017, 07:03:34 pm »

thanks I will check
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2017, 09:59:26 pm »

For those of you that have extensive knowledge on treating different types of cuts, it would be really helpful if you had the time to make a thread explaining how to treat each injury accordingly for those of us newer guys that don’t have much experience with it but would prefer to learn versus going to a vet every time. (There may already be something like this, I just saw this and thought I’d comment about it)


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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2017, 08:30:34 am »

Just use good judgement. And clean clean and even then clean. Some things to keep hand are bar of dial antibacterial soap clean rags and water. There are all kinds of cleaner to use you can pick up at your local ranch supply. Be sure to read how to dilute them correctly. There is a long list of to do and not to do. When in doubt go to the vet talk listen and learn. You can learn a lot from just asking people


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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2017, 02:07:24 pm »

Thanks Judge. The guy I hunt with is real good with it. I never knew he could do such good work on a dog because he usually just leaves cuts alone and lets the dogs clean themselves up. But around 6 months ago they finally killed a dog killer he had been trying to get for several years. In its final stand it killed another catch dog and cut up some others. My pups mom was almost scalped and I couldn’t believe how well he put her back together. I have before and after pics but they’re probably too graphic to post here. When I get back to the US I’m gonna try and get with him for some tips on building a little medical kit to keep in my bag


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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2017, 10:26:15 am »

I keep iodine, vetricyn gel spray, sutures, staples, wrap, and pain killers and antibiotics on hand. Been lucky so far and haven’t had a problem with not having something I needed. Peel helps me out if I don’t know something. And I have another buddy I hunt with that’s always pointed me in the right direction if I don’t know how or what I need to do to a dog. Pretty handy having a long time dog runner or two as a friend to point you in the right  direction.
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2017, 10:57:23 am »

If it's not a long skin rip or torn muscle tissue I leave it alone other than water out of my water hose and vetericyn hydrogel because it sticks to the wound better and topical anti biotics like we have already mentioned, I don't give anti biotics unless I see infection starting to set in or I'll give them a round of it initially, I try to go as holistic as possible, like JP mentioned some good anti bacterial soap and clean water go along way, products such as cut and heal work in certain situations but more times than not prolong the healing process by killing of the bacteria but hinders the new skin and muscle tissue from developing as it would naturally, do some research of the benefits of hydro therapy versus conventional and synthetic medicines and methods, keeping your dogs healthy helps out a great deal in the healing, whenever they are sick or injured I give a k9 multivitamin and probiotics every day, to help keep their  immune system functioning as it should, I used to be very adamant about giving them anti inflammatory just because of the comfort factor but learned the hard way that it actually prolongs healing as well, swelling is a bodies natural response to try to ward off infections from setting in by not allowing and slowing down the formation of white blood cells around the wound area, if the dog can lick the wound that helps out a great deal, in a lot of cases more so than any type of products or topicals will, and that's basically the same method as the hydrotherapy, cleaning out as much of the dead and necrotic tissue will speed the healing process as well, with the hydro therapy you need to run the water over the wound 5-10 minutes a day preferably several times a day but in most cases that isn't feasible for those of us who work everyday, some is better than none, I've seen some chewed up nasty looking wounds healed up great by nothing more than soap and water, and a little penicillin and now with vetericyn, I'm a firm believer in it and swear by it, some situations and scenarios call for heavy rounds and doses of antibiotics, medicines and topicals, and trips to the vet, it's just inevitable but ALOT can be treated right ther at home, the old timers and settlers of our land didn't have access to all the sprays and medicines we can easily get our hands on today, and they made it through those situations they or their dogs found themselves in, I honestly believe that we set our dogs back health and longevity of life wise by over treating with anti parasitics and anti biotics, I've seen first hand the effects of bacteria and parasite resistance in beef cattle treatments, this is just my opinion but a dog doesn't need antibiotics every time they get and injury unless it's obvious it's needed, common sense goes along way, some people get enjoyment it seems by over treating little fefe when she's got a little skin cut by going over board when in reality if the wounds was flushed everyday with clean water and she was left alone to lick the wound she would be just as fine, at the end of the day they're your dogs and unless some one is footing your feed bill then the decision is yours to do as you see fit and needed and this post is just my opinions and the way I see and do things, as long as the animal is done right by the care giver then it doesn't matter whose methods or ways work better...
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2017, 11:03:39 am »

Another remedy to help out with those nasty infected abscessed wounds is to pack it with brown sugar and iodine, I've used this myself on a boys show lambs that were attacked a month before his state show, and old school dairy farmer told me to try it before his mother bought all the medicines and such that others recommended her to, it was amazing to see how effective and great it actually worked and I've used it several more times on yearlings that would come through the chute with nasty looking wounds, activated charcoal and furazone work a lot in a similar way when mixed and packed into a wound...
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2017, 06:51:48 am »

Good information Goose. One thing I have seen much talk about is how to treat a cut throat. My buddy’s dog got killed that way a little while back and it got me thinking about it. Could you put blood stop powder there or would that be a no go because of it being the throat?


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