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Reuben
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« on: December 28, 2017, 07:58:54 pm »

It took me more than a few years to realize what was happening with my pups and me but things have been better now for a good while...

When I step out the back door and the pups bark to get my attention I just ignore them and go about my business or go back inside the house...if they are looking at me calmly I will walk up and let them out and pet them up and then they can go play...

If I walk up to them when they are quiet in the pen and I pet them up they will bark if I walk away without letting them out...

Something I used to do once in a while was to call to them as I was passing by the puppy pen...and this would more than likely make them bark...

Bottom line...without us realizing it the pups can learn real quick that the louder they bark at the very minimum we will go see about them or just let them out and that is exactly what they wanted...but if we react properly to their barking then the pups will learn pretty quick that a tight mouth will get results...we just need to be smarter than the pups...
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 09:18:05 am »

PUPPY TRAINING???

If we encourage the pups we are training them to bark so we want to pick wisely when we want them to bark...

If they bark at you as you walk by or are busy in the area and you stop by to give them attention...now the pups are training you...lol
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2017, 09:41:19 am »

What else do you do when training pups that most people don't think about?
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 09:48:56 am »

What small things have you noticed make the biggest difference when training pups. These guys just getting started as well as some of the seasoned hunters need tips because lots of people don't pay attention to the little things.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 03:07:33 pm »

I always start my pup training by handling them and playing with them. Teaching them commands like sit no come things like that. I let them bark as much as they want but teach them to hush if I tell them


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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 12:46:55 pm »

My pups bark at me all the time there still silent lmao that's a good one Ruben I didn't catch that the first time I read it lol. I think that was one of the funnier thing I heard in a while let me know if that changes any thing I would think you would have to study 500 dogs over 20 yr time period to get a result. And to think you told me I was to nice to breed a good dog lmao. You can do most anything you want to a young dog training will do wonders on the out come but to think a dog will be open because u show it station when it barks lmao. I have been laughing for a solid hr over that lol. If you feed dogs hog meat will it give them more bottom lol. I guess I better stop good reading


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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2018, 03:20:10 pm »

Judge...you totally misunderstood what I was saying...
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2018, 04:38:52 pm »

Must be above my genetic understanding lol


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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 07:10:28 pm »

What small things have you noticed make the biggest difference when training pups. These guys just getting started as well as some of the seasoned hunters need tips because lots of people don't pay attention to the little things.

Now that is a hard one on account we all have different type of dogs...however we can have the exact bloodline of pups and they can be taught to hunt one way because the handler likes a certain style...and a different handler that hunts a totally different style and those same pups can be taught or conditioned to hunt a totally different way...

See the two examples below. Same type of dogs with different style handlers...we are talking about well bred pups...

Example one;

This handler is always in a hurry...it’s more about him than the pups...he unloads the buggy and turns out the pups and moves out at a good pace...the pups want to keep up and also hunt but are more worried about keeping up...they are hunting down a pipeline and the pups smell a somewhat cold track and they work it a little while and then give it up to catch up to the buggy...a little further down the pups hit a smoking hot track and that gets the handlers attention and now they are on a pig...hunting this style then after a while the pups will learn to take the hotter tracks even though their noses can track colder tracks...

Example two;

With this handler it is all about the pups...he wants to bring out the very best in the pups so he does not get in a hurry...he loads the pups in the buggy and goes to a good spot down the pipeline and turns in about 25 yards in the woods and casts the pups on good Hog sign and he makes sure the wind is in the pups favor...once the pups roll out the handler gets back on the pipeline and slowly moves along the pipeline and while tracking pups...pups come back and are roading the pipeline...pups get to working a track and the handler stops and waits on pups to strike or come back...the pups come back and now they are roading again and this time the pups are winding and they go in the woods about 150 yards and come back...the handler figures hogs about 250 yards in the thick brush so he gets off the buggy and walks the pups in with wind at his face...and the pups go in and Bay a boar in his bed...they are now back on the pipeline and he pulls in to the woods and just sits back and urges the pups to get ahead and the pups cast out on account they want to hunt...these pups feel confident and secure that the handler is always there with them...these pups also learn to free cast, wind, and will also take all tracks they can handle all because this handler wants to bring out the best from his pups...

The pups in example one will make good dogs...
But I would rather train and expose my pups per example two...

What I have written is simple enough but to the new guy it could really bring out the best in their pups with proper handling...

There are many little tricks to make it easier on ourselves by setting up the pups in the right scenarios and then helping them to succeed by us doing what is needed as needed...
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 08:57:15 pm »

Most dogs when turned out on a dirt road or pipeline they want to run the road or pipeline at 3/4 speed and they will cut in the woods if they run across a good track if not they can go Almost a mile before cutting in...but initially cutting in to the woods at least 25 yards or more with the buggy and then turning out the pups  usually will get them to make a good loop in the woods right off the bat...

Helping the pups in finding a Hog they are winding and they will learn to use their nose...

Every time we wait for the pups to line out a track they will learn to use their nose to the fullest...

We want the pups to trust that we are always there...
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