Culled...Too Gritty Bay Busters

[Reuben]

Below was posted by warrant123...I hunted with a great dog a few times and could have bought him for 325 buck...30 plus years ago...one of these warrant123 is talking about...

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A good stock bred cur dog has to be able to hold up or "stop"  the roughest of the rough, and then have enough sense to know when to come off and "bay". They will demand cattle or hogs undivided attention. Total control dogs

[Reuben]

This BMC was a pretty reddish gold color with lots of black on his face and ears...also had some mixture of black down his back...built beautifully and of the right weight of 60 pounds or so...built to work all day and his name was Nugget became from South Texas somewhere around Sea Drift area...he was culled because he was too gritty...when I hunted with this dog he was around 18 months old I was told and he had one of the best chop mouths I ever heard...I liked everything about this dog but I figured he couldn’t be an exceptional hog dog cause I seen quite a few that I wouldn’t have fed...

Well we were roading and he was out front in the headlights just trotting along and after a little while he rolls to the north and the wind was blowing pretty good out of the north...

I will continue the story on this great dog later today...

[Reuben]

we stopped as we saw nugget dash out hard to the right...we really couldn't hear anything on account the wind was blowing hard...after a little while we thought we heard a dog had barked once or twice and it wasn't long we heard some grunts and we hurried on up and Nugget and two other dogs had a big boar hog sitting on his jewelry...when he tried to run they set him down...three dogs had him stopped and you could see about a 30 foot circle where they had fought the hog...he was caught in an open meadow with the grass about 3 feet high...hog weighed about 275 lbs...

a week later we were roading Nugget and he cuts to the left and went about 150 yards and he went to baying...he had a 175 pound sow backed up to a fallen tree and he was hammering away...I could hear one of the best chop mouths I ever heard...he was baying about 1 foot from the sow nose...I sent the catch dog and they both caught the sow...Nugget chops three times at a dead run as he relays out and then quiet...in a few minutes he was bayed about a 1/4 mile away...we get there and the sow is about the same size as the first one we caught...he had her back up to a tree and he was right in her face...we catch her and again three loud chops and he is gone on track again...he stopped the third one in an open meadow and I tell the kid that is with me...as soon as we catch the sow you catch nugget...but too late...nugget rolled out and was bayed again about another quarter mile or so...he stayed bayed for about an hour and he comes in after calling for him...we leash him up and on the way out he struck two or three times but we didn't unleash him...we had lots of pork to haul...

he was one of the best looking BMC I have seen and he had a good nose and plenty of speed...and a good mouth...

he was a cull and was sent to the pound and a hog hunter friend of mine new the animal control officer...and the animal control officer always called him anytime he thought a dog had potential as a hog dog and would give him the dog to try out...

whom ever bred this line of BMC knew what he was doing...

Nugget was my kind of dog...even though he was someone else's cull...

nugget was a great hog dog and I had the pleasure to see this dog do what he did best...

this dogs mentality was not to just fight the hog but to shut it down...this is probably one of the best traits that the right BMC's possess...

[Reuben]

another cull...

Killer was his name and he was an East Texas Cur dog...he was a slender 60 pound dog and he had a july walker type head on him...he was a brown brindle color and silent on track...Mike had aquired killer because he was a bay buster and was culled for that reason...

I hunted with this dog several times with my friend named Mike...the dog didn't fit his style and Mike said he would sell Killer to me...Mike was real fond of my main hog dog named Yeller and thought Killer would be a big help to him...I told Mike I would think about it...

After a hunt Mike asked me to tie yeller to a tree and then he tied Killer about 10 feet away from Yeller and he said he wanted to make Yeller and Killer friends with each other...I watched Mike as he sat crossways on his 4 wheeler and the whole while he was smiling and grinning and looking at the two dogs...after 5 minutes or so he was finished...to this day I can't figure out how Mike did it...these dogs loved hunting together...

it doesn't take long and Killer and Yeller are making a good team...they loved each others company and they could shutdown a pig...one day my Uncle was coming down and I offered to take him on a hunt...My Uncle Pete was a big time hunter but had never hunted hogs behind dogs so I offered to take him...He was in his mid seventies so I knew he might not stick a pig but at least he could go for the ride...but as luck would have it Yeller and killer run one an catch him right in the middle of a dirt road and I drive up to the caught hog and my uncle gets to stick his only hog and I was real happy for him...he always bought me bullets when I was a kid and we hunted together many times back when I was a youngster...so this was really special to me...

we move on to another place and turn Killer and Yeller out in a meadow next to the woods...the two get to trailing and they are loping along real cool as we followed in the truck...the dogs looked happy and content loping side by side following the track...I was thinking about how could Mike make those dogs to be good friends with each other...I still wonder about that...

the dogs cut into the woods and cross a slew and we kill the truck engine and listen...about 10 minutes go by and they go to baying solid...I get there and they have a 250 pound sow sitting in a small rose hedge looking for any kind of protection...

The day I lost Killer...

My brother and I hunted quite a bit together back in those days...there was a 100 acre place we could hunt next to a hiway...there was another 100 acres next door that someone from out of town owned and was totally unimproved...there weren't any hogs in that area except once in a while...one day we saw this giant hog track so we tried to get the dogs on it but it proved too cold...we went out and scouted the area and found where the hog spent some of his time next to the road and so we make a plan to get this big boar...

We cast out Yeller and killer and in 5 minutes they bayed and we sent some rough dogs to them and the hog breaks bay 3 times and they go out of hearing...all the dogs eventually come back except for Killer and Yeller...If I had a tracking system back then we might of caught that big boar hog...

I put up reward posters and one man calls all PO'ed because he thought we were trespassing on his land because he saw my dogs laying out behind his barn...even though I had to listen to all that I got my hopes up...I called him later to see if he had seen the dogs again but luckily his wife answered and apologized for her husbands behavior and the lady said she would call me if she saw the dogs...I drove about 50 mile round trips every day after work looking for the dogs...I would switch out sweaty shirts about every three days...about a week goes by and I see where my shirt was moved and it looked like a dog had slept on it...that gave me more hope...another week goes by and I am out there calling for the dogs and yeller shows up and loads up...he was cut up quite a bit and was healing rather well...I realized right there and then Killer didn't make it and if he did someone picked him up because he was people friendly...to this day it still bothers me not knowing what really happened to Killer... that same month I ordered my first tracking system...

bay busting dogs make hog hunting a challenge especially in the thick stuff...but I wouldn't have it any other way...

the man that was PO'ed got mad when I told him where we started the hog...he said, that is five miles from my land...you must of been trespassing on my land...I still hear that now and then from other folks...but now I have two collars on each dog...a quick track and an alpha 100...

[Jason Dunn]

Good post enjoyed the read.

[HIGHWATER KENNELS]

Yes sir,, enjoyed the read...   I have had several bay busters in my time,, You either end up catchin a lot of smaller hogs or you get it figured out and hunt them by themselves if they have the ability to find their own hogs.   Its very interesting how you had the opportunity to have a couple that you could hunt together with another dog...  if only we could talk to em and tell em what we want sometimes.. it might take some of the headache out of it  lol...

[Reuben]

thank you men...

Killer was not what I call a strike dog but he made every step my Yeller dog made...and together they made a good team...

Nugget...that dog really showed his greatness and I was glad to have hunted behind him...he was just a good all around hog dog...I did try to find the breeders but never found out who they were...
Nugget had the mentality to stop a hog no matter what once he got on one...that is a trait hard to come by in my opinion...the mt curs I raised at one time seems like they had a different mentality...run to catch and kill...which is not the same as run to stop the hog no matter what...