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« on: February 11, 2019, 08:41:00 am »

I've notice my 18 month old female cracker cur has been gimped up the past two weeks after hunting and come to think about she was showing signs of soreness a week or two prior. This dog has flipped the switch, hunting hard by herself and tracked a big boar over 2 miles yesterday by herself before she gave out. After 1 or 2 good runs she becomes fatigued, won't jump in the box, and is sore for 2 days after and will seem fine after that. I usually hunt 4-6 hours in the morning and head home, I do not run all day.

Other symptoms, I noticed she's bunny hopping in the rear legs and seems postured very tight in her lower back. I thought maybe at first she just tweaked something but soon realized I'm running her back off. After talking to my GrandDad who owned a greyhound kennel for 40+ years, says I need to sit her out for 4-8 weeks and recondition her to hunt again, and feed her twice a day to build her muscles back up. I was concerned with hip dysplasia at first but she's not kicking her leg out to the side and is rare in this line of dog. I even noticed her 10 month old son is doing the same thing after this weekends hunt. Which he's running really hard and trying to keep up with the grown dogs.

Does anyone experience this in their cur dogs? How do you prevent/rehab them, from I was told if they do not recover properly they can permanently damage their rear end causing a spine injury. I will sit her out for 4-6 weeks strict rest and slowly start letting run the property beside the the side by side 2-3 times per week working working building strength and stamina. Maybe this is something I should do in the off season, but she is conditioned and been hunted regularly since October last year, I think maybe since she is turning on now she might be pushing herself too hard. Because she is not the same dog she was 4 months ago by no means. Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 03:53:05 pm »

The only experience I’ve had with dogs acting like this have been caused by tick diseases. Lyme, Rocky Mountain, ehrlichiosis.... There are so many out there and they have so many side effects but we saw it a lot when hunting the dogs hard. We routinely saw sore joints, swollen legs and just irregular hunting, when before they had been on fire. It could be hereditary and be a structural hip issue but I would have your vet run a tick assay next trip... hopefully this is not it and you can then look into different avenues.


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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 05:33:14 pm »

I had a tight bred cracker dog that developed the rabbit hop and tight back end that your describing it turned out to be hip dysplasia it doesn't show up until about her age and you saying her son is exhibiting simular symptoms sounds very suspect.I agree with Tshelly on running tick disease test but my vet was able to see it immediately on an x-ray.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 06:28:36 pm »

I guess I’ll have to get her to the vet this week and X-ray back and hips. Hopefully I pushed her too hard and can get her to bounce back in a few months.


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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 07:23:59 pm »

I have raised quite a few cur dogs and I had a really nice pup that developed  hip displasia...
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 07:34:45 pm »

forget the vet, drugs are not the long term answer, get her adjusted by a chiropractor or a vet that does manipulations. equine chiropractors that do dogs are easy to find too. id add in fish oil for anti-inflammatory help like steroids but without the bad side effects to the joints...
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 07:36:09 pm »

forget the vet, drugs are not the long term answer, get her adjusted by a chiropractor or a vet that does manipulations. equine chiropractors that do dogs are easy to find too. id add in fish oil for anti-inflammatory help like steroids but without the bad side effects to the joints...

if it is hip dysplasia shes as good as dead anyhow as a working dog
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 09:53:41 pm »

Classical hip dysplasia symptoms.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2019, 06:30:43 am »

I was going to breed her, and need to know for sure cause I don’t want this in my line.


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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2019, 08:29:44 am »

Your right about not wanting that In your line. Breeding her when she has lyme disease tick fever will cause problems to. I've seen it done and pups were born with birth defects.

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2019, 09:46:07 am »

Have an appointment this Friday, I'll update everyone when I know something. Thanks.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2019, 04:00:41 am »

Your right about not wanting that In your line. Breeding her when she has lyme disease tick fever will cause problems to. I've seen it done and pups were born with birth defects.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2019, 04:55:04 pm »

Could be as simple as to lean of a dog that doesn’t have any fat. As the dog works it’s self to the brink of muscle failure repeatedly and doesn’t have the fat on its body to recover or sustain its self you could just be repeating the cycle. But like said that do sound just like hip D


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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 06:25:11 pm »

Wouldn't hurt to see if your vet will sale you a bottle of dexamethasone, it's and excellent anti inflammatory....
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2019, 07:23:01 pm »



Damn hip dysplasia. This has messed everything up. Gonna have to go back to my main gyp, the father would show very similar symptoms to my gyp now (his daughter)but I just assume it was a mild case but this is ridiculous at 1.5 years old. Her brothers are finding hogs and having no issues at at. Her 10 month old son is starting to acting the same way so he has to go also. I’m so damn pissed. Both breeder are telling me they have never heard of dysplasia in any of their dogs that they know of.  Got to nip it in the butt now and give them up for adoption.


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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2019, 07:41:48 pm »

What line of dogs?
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2019, 07:42:44 pm »

That really sucks!
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2019, 08:27:38 pm »

Man, I hate that for you bud.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2019, 08:33:44 pm »

Salute to you for being honest with yourself! A lot of folks in dogs lie to themselves and others about the facts.

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2019, 08:35:51 am »

These are a cracker cur line (south Florida Partin dog). number 2 happens, going back to drawing board. It's not a severe case but she out of the hunting game for sure.
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