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WayOutWest
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« on: March 27, 2019, 11:36:16 am » |
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I took my new pup to my vet the other day for shots and was talking to her and she told me that they have seen issues with pea protein possibly causing heart issues in dogs. She told me that they have just started a study in the last month so it will be sometime before they know anything. I looked at my food and of course peas was the second ingredient so the pup got switched and the adults will after this is used up. I am not trying to start an argument about this but y'all can do your own investigation. I have always been very skeptical of soy protein but don't know if it related.
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Northstar
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2019, 09:35:10 pm » |
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It is interesting that they would look at that. Humans have been eating peas for ages. I am not claiming anything but seems city vets always have a good they are selling or a product they push. I have always fed the best I can afford but have hunted with folks that feed what they can and what ever is left over with no regard for what was in it chicken bones and all. I know a fella that had dogs they would eat what ever chicken they would catch in the chain spot and the game they killed nothing cooked.
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t-dog
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2019, 04:52:02 am » |
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Those dogs that were eating the chicken and the game they caught were probably the healthiest. Fact is that peas and soy are related. It has been proven that human babies raised on soy formulas more times than not have some form of adverse effect. In little girls, they found that they matured earlier and suffered severe menstrual cycles or had very inconsistent menstrual cycles. In little boys they found that many of them developed "man boobs" and had fertility issues later in life. Peas and soy both produce a isoflavone that the body can not distinguish from estrogen. We all know this to be the hormone that women produce the most of. For obvious reasons, its the hormone that men wanting to be a women take. I think I might have a hunting partner that is either a dog formula baby or is on estrogen shots! Anyway, it isn't something that want to feed my anything. I honestly think it's been a major contributing factor in some females I wanted to breed to having erratic and poor quality heat cycles. I'll take chicken by products (left over feet, feathers, etc.) over soy. Those feathers are super high in protein so the protein is present in the feed. The problem is that it's one of the few things a dog can't break down therefore it isn't a usable protein. But it isn't causing the health issues that soy or peas do. Just my two cents worth.
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Reuben
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2019, 11:34:33 am » |
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Tdog...I knew that about soybeans but sure didn’t about peas...
Epigenetics can be a positive and most times a permanent change in genetics but in this case it is most definitely a negative...
Some of the cheaper dog foods will add feathers and hair to the dog food and the protein percentage on the cover of the bag will read pretty high protein content such as 28% or better but feathers and hair are not digestible...but for the uninformed it is a good sales pitch...same thing with bones...adds calcium to the contents of the bag but it cannot be digested...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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TheRednose
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2019, 02:13:26 pm » |
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There have been a few studies done that show most plant based proteins are not as bio available and the animal based ones as well.
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