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« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2019, 03:18:52 pm »

The rolling over is a natural trait I love in these cur dogs I fool with as well.Mine help catch though before leaving and are closer to what Justin describes and leave when I say to leave.
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« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2019, 07:44:12 pm »

I am glad to see folks using the words roll over rather than relay...I would like to see Black and Tan cur rather than reverse BMC... I haven’t been able to figure that one out yet...
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« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2019, 12:02:25 am »

This is a great thread, at 1st I was finding it hard to understand some of the terminology's used but as I continued to read on and different examples were explained I began to understand. I agree that these traits are natural instinct and some dogs have a better handle on them than others. I also believe as others have mentioned that terrain and vegetation makes a big difference to a dogs working style. 
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« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2019, 07:54:24 pm »

I have seen a few dog smart hogs that seem to make a quick circle of a quarter mile or so and then roll out and run hard for a good while...I saw him cross the pipeline almost a mile further up running all out and a while later the dogs crossed the pipeline right where the hog crossed...we caught him later but it took more than a few tries...

Here is a scenario that happens...let’s say a pack of 9 hogs moved in to a hardwood area that had a good mast of acorns...the hogs hung out and fed on the acorns most of the night and laid tracks on about ten acres of land pretty much scattered out in those ten acres...the hogs leave to the watering hole about 4 in the morning which is 3/4 mile away...

Joe figures the hogs would be feeding in that area so he comes in as best he can from the downwind side at about 6 am...he casts Smoke and Yeller about quarter mile from there and the dogs roll out hard because they smell hog in the air...these two dogs are top of the line strike dogs and look good in any company...but there is a small difference in these two dogs...Smoke is a decent dog when it comes to drifting and lining out a feeder track...takes him a few minutes but he will get it lined out pretty quick... he’s got experience and has great instincts...

Yeller is a little different in that he was born to be a great dog...he hits the feeding area from the downwind side and he already knows the hogs are not there...no fresh hog scent in the air...he immediately makes a good loop and barks 2 or 3 times when he locates the feeding exit tracks...in less than five minutes Yeller is bayed not too far from the watering hole...Smoke will be there shortly...
So drifting is just finding the short end of a track? Any dog with half a walnut in his head and a little want to bay, ought to be able to do this... no?


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It sounds very easy...with today’s forums anyone who wants to be a dogman can read and apply if they are truly in it for the dogs...some folks might think they have great dogs because they catch hogs once they get on them...but the dogs that usually make drifting a track look easy are the same dogs that make it finding a hog look easy as well...there are plenty of bush beaters out there hunting and finding a hog now and then... and then a dog can be coming right in behind that dog a little  while later and gets one found and bayed in that same area...
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