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« on: June 19, 2019, 04:24:37 pm »

Just curious if anyone has ever hunted with, behind or raised a gsp that was to  hyper and all it wanted to do was run? Crazy question right?  I have gsp that shows interest in a pig will bay a pig in a pen and has been caught solo on a shoat once. Soon as her feet hit the ground she gone 1000 miles to nothing. I've raised this dog from a pup and I feel like by now she should know what's going on. She will make 2 in August and has been hunted at least once a week for about 8 months maybe less. My question is to cull or not cull?
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 05:21:03 pm »

I had a dog once that was Springer Spaniel and running walker cross. He looked like he had a rocket shoved up his butt from start to finish. He found a lot of hogs but he missed a lot of hogs too. He would leave and be bayed way out and another dog would bay hogs between him and us that he just over ran because he was moving too fast. On the plus side, he had that gear all day. If he found it he was there until you ended it, for one hog or ten in a day. She may settle down some. A lot of dogs mature and settle down a lot after a litter of puppies. It's all about how much you can tolerate. I decided against breeding a tight bred family of dogs into my stuff to freshen it up because of that over active disposition. More of them than not chewed water buckets, feed bowls, and dog houses. They were constantly digging. Digging to the point of Chinese neighbors. It was worse than aggravating. For me dogs like that have to do EVERYTHING else right because there is no forgiveness left lol.

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2019, 05:52:47 pm »

Just curious if anyone has ever hunted with, behind or raised a gsp that was to  hyper and all it wanted to do was run? Crazy question right?  I have gsp that shows interest in a pig will bay a pig in a pen and has been caught solo on a shoat once. Soon as her feet hit the ground she gone 1000 miles to nothing. I've raised this dog from a pup and I feel like by now she should know what's going on. She will make 2 in August and has been hunted at least once a week for about 8 months maybe less. My question is to cull or not cull?

A lot of folks have used bird dogs to hunt hogs with for years here and other continents, but one thing you have to consider is your asking a dog to hunt in a way that totally different from what they’re genetically hardwired to do, bird dogs have a genetic predisposition to naturally want to hunt birds and bird scent and point, not saying they don’t make hog dogs because there’s countless examples of bird dogs and their crosses making outstanding hog dogs, maybe yours prefers feathers over fur, they don’t want to naturally run an bay a piece of furry game, again some do with no problem, I was looking into getting and English pointer from my neighbor, he’s a full time and successful field trial competitor, and when I told him I wanted a pup to raise up around hog hunting he told me it didn’t matter what kinda exposure they got that if they didn’t naturally prefer fur then they probably wouldn’t make a hog dog, this is just my case with his family of dogs, that over the years he had sent bird dogs to his father in-law in GA that hog hunted and he did good with them, but it was always the ones that were trashy and rather run fur bearing game than birds, and most of the time those dogs were out of dogs that had to be broke from off game themselves, not saying this is the case but something to look into...


My Smutt dog had a littermate to him that was to high strung to hog hunt, they were tight bred on a big motor dog to begin with, but his brother got the most of the bad habits, he would just go and go and to some it would’ve seemed like he had a lot of hunt, but he didn’t have hunting and finding and baying a hog on his mind, he just wanted to run, he made a pretty good cow dog, he was a crypto orchid so I wasn’t good to breed to him anyways, he was was so wired he teeth would be literally chattering together in the dog box, and when you turned him loose he took off like he was shot out of a cannon, Smutt was always the one who fell bayed or would at least go to another dog barking and cover him, not all dogs are cut out to be hog dogs, only question that needs to be answered is how much your willing to put up with and for how long....
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 08:13:15 pm »

The very best dogs I raised and hunted were laid back until the dog box opened...I usually can not tolerate a dog that is excessively hyper...
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2019, 09:45:34 pm »

 T-dog I think that's why I have been patient this far I keep hoping it's a maturity thing.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2019, 09:50:14 pm »

Goose she come out of hog dogs. I've been speaking to the guy I bought her from and he said one of the litter mates is jam up and this was a repeat breeding. Everything you said is definitely something to think about
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2019, 10:10:12 pm »

The very best dogs I raised and hunted were laid back until the dog box opened...I usually can not tolerate a dog that is excessively hyper...

I will not tolerate or put up with an excessively hyper active dog, I got one here now that showed up at a friends house, he kept her for a month to see if any of the guys that hog hunt around him lost her, he brought her to me and her and I went rounds when I first got her, she’s finally coming around to how the laws of physics applies around here, she’s a young dog, looks to be almost full redbone but doesn’t have a hound bark to her at all, she has almost a squeal, and is a very vocal dog over everything, and would wrap you up in a chain quick, she would eat like she’s been starved before and just make a complete mess, I’ve about got her to stop most of that, she just had absolutely no type of handle or manners when I got her, and still can’t control herself at times, she will let out a bark and run for her dog house, but we’ve seen enough good so far out of her to deal with it for now...
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2019, 08:01:35 am »

My uncle has a half walker half bird dog... Male dog that is 3 now.. This is how he is,,, wide open,, no stop...  I don't like a hyper dog,,never did.  They don't seem to learn as fast and they steadily run thru hogs and keep running past the scent instead of running it accurately..  But ,, If you need some drive to a pack that has already caught a hog after a long race,,, this dog will flat pull dogs out and go yonder..
Too me this cross takes the nose away  and it turns out to be hot nosed .. Good luck with yours man,,, maybe with time around that 5 yr old mark ,, things might slow down alittle,,, I know that what my uncle is hoping for...
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2019, 08:53:55 am »

I usually ask myself, have I given the dog every opportunity to do what I’m asking of him? Have you taken this gsp dog to a spot you know there’s hog laid close and turned him out alone? That’s usually my final decision maker. If they’re at the point where I think they should have a clue, I dump them out solo in hogs and given them a little time to go. If they can’t even get bored enough alone to walk 300 yards and go atleast jump the hog, I have no use for putting anymore time into a dog like that. My opinion only. But I think you gotta ask and be honest with yourself if you have given him all the chances(sounds like you have) and is he where you think he should be? If not well, next man up


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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2019, 01:22:27 pm »

Thanks for the response guys. I might give her a little more time
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