Put the breaks on a good one...

[Goose87]

Myself and one of my oldest and dearest friends in life and the dog world have started back hunting together a lot after both being burned one time to many by so called friends that we’ve both given dogs to and basically put them in the game, last month we’ve been hunting for some bigger hogs and have paid the price the last three weekends, my top producing stud dog Smutt took a hit to the back end and severed his testicles loose from his body and cut his uretha (p!ss  tube) in half requiring neutering and surgery, following weekend my buddy’s dog gets a bad neck hit and we found his gyp bought bled out and got her stabilized and put back on the hog only to get put off on smaller hogs and caught the dogs off before we got a dog ran over for a shoat being as it was already 11 and we was right in the side of hwy 21 literally in the city limits of a little town called Angie, and my kate gyp took a hard deep puncture to her back end at the base of her tail....

So this past weekend we scraped together what we had left and loaded the buggy and left from Cody’s house bout 7, there are corn fields all around him and the guy doing the harvesting has done a shoddy job and there’s corn on the groun everywhere, so finding the hogs was difficult being as they don’t have to travel to find food, 9:30 my cur gyp Cleo throws her head up in front of the buggy and shoots outa a
corn field into a seasonal creek bottom, Cody had two hounds on the ground and by the Garmins we could tell they could smell where they had been but couldn’t line it out, it’s dry as a powder house floor around here right now, we let them do as they wanted and road around a point in the field and spotted a wallow with one big set of tracks that had been used that morning, he told me to put my male hound Ben down, I dropped him right in the wallow and as he was relieving himself the wind had kicked up a little and Cody’s gyp that’s part Cameron bluetick honed in on a kudzu thicket and found the hog in his bed, just a few minutes later and we were listening to that sweet sweet sound of a good bay, we each had two dogs on the ground and Cody had one more gyp in the box, I said what the heck send her to them, we right here at the house let her get some action, ole hog tried to make a break for it but soon realized these weren’t the normal hounds he was used to eluding, he didn’t make it 75 yds and they sat him down again,  and by the sound of the bay we could tell he was contained, I mean it was a beautiful sounding bay they were spitting the what for’s in his face, we slip in and send our CDs and can hear that deep grunt instead of a squeal, we get him rolled over and tied and get to looking and both his nuts were hanging out, and his tail had been bit off and them back legs had hide missing,  we went ahead and finished the cutting and took our pictures and tied the dogs back and sent him on his way, what made this hunt kinda comical was it was just me and Cody and his 2 year old son, our plan was one of us was to work the hog and the other hold the baby, well we had to do some readjusting when they decided to pull out the big one we had been wanting, we got about 50 yds from the bay and I gave the baby my garmin and phone and we sat him down on a log watching a cartoon of my sons, after we had the hog tied he came sauntering in there and kicked the hog and said “big hog daddy” and went back to “tracking” the dogs on the garmin, we was done and back home sewing dogs up by 10 and I was home in time to catch the LSU game, it was a beautiful day all around here in the south...

[t-dog]

That's awesome goose. Hate to hear about your stud. That's why I breed dogs a little sooner than most. If they are showing me that they might actually be what I expect then I don't wait. I'll cull if it doesn't turn out in my favor but you can't breed them if they are dead or have to be spayed or neutered. Those are sure nice looking hounds and I'm real glad to see y'alls helper with you.

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[Cajun]

Good hog there Goose. Hope the dogs heal up.

[Goose87]

That's awesome goose. Hate to hear about your stud. That's why I breed dogs a little sooner than most. If they are showing me that they might actually be what I expect then I don't wait. I'll cull if it doesn't turn out in my favor but you can't breed them if they are dead or have to be spayed or neutered. Those are sure nice looking hounds and I'm real glad to see y'alls helper with you.

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I got two gyps off him, one is super super nice and the other I sent to my ex paw in law to use on cattle and to keep stowed away for breeding, and another litter of him and a salty walker gyp thats about 8 months old, luckily I know where some of Smutts littermates are so I still have that option, we were just talking the weekend before it happened about having him collected, but you know how that goes, and you would know the week after it happened I had 3 or 4 phone calls from friends wanting to breed some outside gyps to him, I’m the same way when breeding, I’ve listened to people blow smoke about how a dog must be older and proven before they’re breed worthy yada yada yada, and shot myself in the foot, most of the time those dogs are man made and not born with the “gift” the naturals just have it from birth and it can be seen at an early age, I’ll breed them early now if I see that “it” factor, if they don’t work out then they’re dealt with accordingly, it’s just that easy, it ain’t nothing but time and money and we spend our entire lives chasing after and wasting both...

[Goose87]

Good hog there Goose. Hope the dogs heal up.

Thanks Mr. Mike, I’ve made Jace lay up his Coal gyp which is the really nice female we have off Smutt so we can get some pups off her before something happens and his Dolly gyp got cut down about a month ago, so everything he’s been hunting is mine and he’s put some miles and scars on them, he been on a roll on rank hogs, I went this past week and picked up two males I let some boys take and hunt just so the ones we got now could catch a break lol...

[t-dog]

Good luck with it

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[Reuben]

Good hog and story...sorry about your dogs...

[Reuben]

That's awesome goose. Hate to hear about your stud. That's why I breed dogs a little sooner than most. If they are showing me that they might actually be what I expect then I don't wait. I'll cull if it doesn't turn out in my favor but you can't breed them if they are dead or have to be spayed or neutered. Those are sure nice looking hounds and I'm real glad to see y'alls helper with you.

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Same here...by time they reach breading age I usually know what they will be...

[Reuben]

That's awesome goose. Hate to hear about your stud. That's why I breed dogs a little sooner than most. If they are showing me that they might actually be what I expect then I don't wait. I'll cull if it doesn't turn out in my favor but you can't breed them if they are dead or have to be spayed or neutered. Those are sure nice looking hounds and I'm real glad to see y'alls helper with you.

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Same here...by time they reach breeding age I usually know what they will be...

[NLAhunter]

Dang good hog hate hear that about your male dog

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[Judge peel]

That sucks on your dog I had that exact same thing happen it sucks. Nice hog tho. That’s funny on that little guy he just copying what he seen lol


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[The Old Man]

I agree with you guys about breeding early, no matter how proven a dog is in the woods they are not a proven producer until pups are raised and evaluated, I have bred quite a few before 2 yrs old if they had all the tools and a propensity to use them consistently.
 I once nearly ran out of yellow dogs due to having raised an extra nice female to use out of this line bred strain of dogs, two old gyps were done and I had saved this younger one to keep and breed, bred her to 3 different males just knowing she should raise some gooduns and there were only 2 puppies that were worth feeding and my brother-in -law had both of them haha. I swore I would not ever put all the eggs in the basket of an unproven in the brood pen male or female again, so breeding early sorts that out for you besides the potential for losing one without ever having bred them. I've kept this strain of dogs for 36-37 years now and breeding early has not posed a problem.

[t-dog]

Can you post some pics of your dogs some time old man and tell us about them. I love looking and listening

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[Bowtech99]

Awesome story and hunt, nicely done!

[RBz_OFFROAD]

Good job Goose.  Fine hog and dogs.  Hope they all heal up good.

[TheRednose]

Thats a nice hog Goose, I see you got your best hand with you, I know he will be keeping you in the woods.

Hey in that first pic what is that hi tan dog? I have a pup that should end up looking like that and I am a sucker for hi tans and saddlebacks.

[Goose87]

Thats a nice hog Goose, I see you got your best hand with you, I know he will be keeping you in the woods.

Hey in that first pic what is that hi tan dog? I have a pup that should end up looking like that and I am a sucker for hi tans and saddlebacks.

The lil fella is an ace hand in the making, he’s my buddies son, my number one guy was with his mother, he’s informed already we’re making a loop in the morning...

The tan gyp is a line bred gyp off some local stock started by preacher Terry McCain years ago, Cajun will know who he is, he started with a 50/50 catahoula July hound cross and line bred within those dogs for years, several years before his passing he started breeding Cameron Bluetick into them, my buddy Cody got in with him and got his hands on some of the older stock before they had so much bluetick bred into them that they favored the blue ticks more, he has since maintained a line based off the older stock with the bluetick kept under 1/2, some litters have a higher percentage but not so much they become slower, he’s got a 3/4 Cameron gyp 1/4 Smokey river blue female that’s he’s raising some pups off of that will be at 5/8 bluetick and 3/8 old stock more or less for breeding in the future, I’m toying with the idea of breeding a full brother to bluetick gyp into my dogs for the additional nose power they bring to the table, I had a tight tight bred Cameron gyp once before when they started bringing them in down here that was to tight, she was mentally f*cked up in a bad way and had to be put down...

[Cajun]

GOOSE, BROTHER MCCAIN BRED THAT CATAHOULA GYP TO A SPEED AND DRIVE JULY CHAMPION BUT WHEN HE CROSSED THOSE DOGS INTO THE B;UETICS HE ADDED A WHOLE NEW DIMENSION. THEY HAD SPEED AND NOSE AND WERE SOME PRETTY WELL ROUNDED DOGS WITH ALL THE STICK YOU WANT.
  YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG ADDING MORE NOSE IF THEY CAN MOVE THE TRACK. IF YOU CANT TRAIL HIM, YOU CANT BAY HIM. THAT BEING SAID, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHERE AND HOW YOU HUNT. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOGS, YOU PROBABLY DONT NEED A HOTTER NOSE DOG.
  IF YOU HAVE FEWER HOGS OR TRACK HUNT, YOU NEED THE NOSE ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER WHERE THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY CAN MAKE A FRESH TRACK OLD IN A HURRY. JMO

[Goose87]

GOOSE, BROTHER MCCAIN BRED THAT CATAHOULA GYP TO A SPEED AND DRIVE JULY CHAMPION BUT WHEN HE CROSSED THOSE DOGS INTO THE B;UETICS HE ADDED A WHOLE NEW DIMENSION. THEY HAD SPEED AND NOSE AND WERE SOME PRETTY WELL ROUNDED DOGS WITH ALL THE STICK YOU WANT.
  YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG ADDING MORE NOSE IF THEY CAN MOVE THE TRACK. IF YOU CANT TRAIL HIM, YOU CANT BAY HIM. THAT BEING SAID, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHERE AND HOW YOU HUNT. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOGS, YOU PROBABLY DONT NEED A HOTTER NOSE DOG.
  IF YOU HAVE FEWER HOGS OR TRACK HUNT, YOU NEED THE NOSE ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER WHERE THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY CAN MAKE A FRESH TRACK OLD IN A HURRY. JMO

I hunted with them a good bit 10-11 years ago, his son in law Glennis and I were close friends at one time, still a good friend of mine we just never see each other, he got outa hunting when Bro. McCain passed, I learned a lot about being a good hunter and reading a dogs body language, and a lot about hogs and their habits and tendency’s from being around him but he was peculiar about who he let hunt with him and would get a little aggravated if you didn’t do things his way, I wanted to have good dogs of my own and realized I never would by only turning my dogs in after his dogs jumped, sometimes not getting to turn a dog loose period, I eased on out and didn’t go with them as much, my friends who hunted with him just wanted to catch hogs and the situation suited them perfect, I on the other hand wanted to have those caliber dogs of my own, I remember when the blue dog bug bit him, Bro. Thearl Hobley had a blue Smokey river dog that cold trailed a big track for hours and miles and jumped the hog, it wasn’t long and the Cameron craze set in, the first F1 crosses were the first dogs I can personally recollect actually noticing and paying attention to being just natural game getters, we used to turn hogs out in front of pups around Glennis’ house at night during turkey season and had a race going one night and McCain pulled up with two pups he just took outa the pen around 6-7 months old that had never seen a piece of game of any kind and once the race came closer esthey went insane and bee lined to the action and within an hr had pulled the lead on some nice older dogs 10-18 months old, toward the end IMO his dogs favored the blue side more and slowed down and would really try to work a track they shouldn’t when a better one could be found elsewhere, Cody, the guy in the pic, got some closer to the origin and bred around the old dogs while keeping the blue blood down enough to move a track at a steady consistent pace on the faster side than most, the gyp I have off Jack has a dang nice nose and is picking up the rigging by herself but hasn’t fully gained my trash free trust, she’s the one who really got my hamster wheel in the head rolling and pondering about nose power, right here in Varnado where I live is kinda unique in its own way, in 5 minutes or less I can be in an open hard wood swamp or be in the timber company land, in 15 I can be in farming and cattle country around Tylertown area, in the swamp and farm country a cold nose dog can be a burden and isn’t the most useful tool to have, and will be outclassed by warmer nose track drifting type, that timber land is a different story as you know, and it gets to me when I find a big track and a dog takes it but can’t move it past a certain point, mainly happens July-sept when the humidity is 90% at day break and 90 degrees at 930 am, and just horrible environmental conditions to trail in, ive seen good looking dogs look like they are just mediocre at best at times, they brought in blue dogs from Oklahoma and give me one that wouldn’t bay, I got her to baying and actually bred her to my original stud dog in this family, she was absolutely mentally the most messed up dog I have seen, she would eat any pup that got around her as long as she could over power it, she wound up completing the circle of life and contributed to some good organic dirt later on,

I was about 12, not old enough to pay for feed or a vehicle and my parents wouldn’t let me have hogdogs, a leopard pied double glass eye female showed up on my pond damn while I was fishing one day, boy I just knew God had answered my prayers, I had me a catahoula and was about to be the best hog hunter around, mom shot that down real quick and dad didn’t argue, I threatened to run away with her if dad tried to haul her off, my paw paw lives less than a 1/4 mile and was the one responsible for my hog madness he exposed me to, he’s always been a dog man and I knew he would keep her, his life is outa balance if he doesn’t have a dog chained or penned up to go tend to, he knew McCain and about his dogs, so we set out to make our own, and bred that catahoula gyp to one of Horace Seals July’s, I thought our dogs looked good until I saw McCains and mine were built nothing like his at all, mine were all big and ugly and not worth the time it took to look at them, unknowingly a great lesson in genetics at the time, all this gibberish has jogged some great memories of great times with some good Godly men who helped mold the lives of several young men all because of the love of a dog, looking like a visit with some of them old boys is now in my future, Bro. McCain is gone and I believe Bro. Thearl Hobley might’ve passed as well, I know he no longer hunts, gotta enjoy every second you get with folks you enjoy, another night of passing a kidney stone, this helps to take my mind off it....

[t-dog]

I had a very similar upbringing goose. Right you are about the time we gave with people, and those special dogs and horses. Once they're gone.......

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