October 23, 2020, 07:58:54 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: WILD BOAR USA....FOR ALL YOUR HOG HUNTING NEEDS
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Help  (Read 939 times)
Rodeodog
Bay Dog
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 30


View Profile
« on: December 25, 2019, 10:39:18 am »

My lead dog walker got a herniated disc from the other night. Vet said 4 out 5 dogs heal without the surgery but if he’s not showing improvement within a couple days to put him down. Has anyone else had dogs go through this and did they recover and how long did it take for them to show signs of improvement?
Logged
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1309


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2019, 11:07:18 am »

Did he put him on any anti-inflammatories? Back injuries in dogs is tough. My dad just put a big pup down for this very thing. It got to the point that he would holler over the slightest movements. I would try to keep him comfortable but confined. Walk him on lead to use the bathroom etc. I wouldn't want any aggravation and I would use anti inflammatories and DMSO. I LOVE the DMSO for myself and my animals. It's worth reading up on. I would also be messaging him a couple times a day. There animal chiropractors that might be able to help or make some better suggestions. I hope he gets better.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
Rodeodog
Bay Dog
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 30


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2019, 11:13:20 am »

Yes sir he gave me three different pills to give him every 24 hours. But it’s been a couple of days and he still ain’t able to get up
Logged
Goose87
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1326


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2019, 11:13:53 am »

Did he put him on any anti-inflammatories? Back injuries in dogs is tough. My dad just put a big pup down for this very thing. It got to the point that he would holler over the slightest movements. I would try to keep him comfortable but confined. Walk him on lead to use the bathroom etc. I wouldn't want any aggravation and I would use anti inflammatories and DMSO. I LOVE the DMSO for myself and my animals. It's worth reading up on. I would also be messaging him a couple times a day. There animal chiropractors that might be able to help or make some better suggestions. I hope he gets better.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk


DMSO was once manufactured by Gaylord chemical Corp right here in my home, it was as common as tap water when I was growing up, my paw paw ran fox dogs harder than most and would wrap ace bandages around their joints and soak them in DMSO, there are still folks who have drums and drums of this stuff stored away, I stil have several several gallons stored in quart jars, folks around here used to mix it in their coffee as a sort of snake oil cure all, a horse chiropractor may be able to help you out....
Logged
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1309


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2019, 11:24:42 am »

That's my thoughts goose

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
Cajun
Hog Catching Machine
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2028


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2019, 02:57:36 pm »

If he truely has a herniated disc, not much will help him. You can try temporary fixes like dmso, even ibuprofen but they all have long term negative effects. Myself, I have two herniated discs in L4 and L5. Last couple of years I have been getting back epiderials just so I can work but I cannot stay under horses like I used too. I was taking so much Ibuprofen I got a ulcer and had to quit. Dogs are way tougher and with time he might come out of it but it will effect him with age.
Logged

Bayou Cajun Plotts
Happiness is a empty dogbox
Relentless pursuit
Goose87
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1326


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2019, 07:34:37 pm »

Dexamethasone is an ace up anybody’s sleeve if they have any, like Cajun said if it’s truly an HD then all solutions are band aids at best, if corrective surgery of some sort isn’t an option then I’d keep a keen eye on him for months until I put him back in action, I’m talking a full six months even after he’s showing zero symptoms of him bothering him, let everything heal as it should and try your best to do right by the dog and keep him comfortable, if it becomes a full time burden an effects his quality of life then it maybe time to do what’s best for him and have him put down, if he’s a dog that loves to do his job the mental anguish it causes not being able to do it but still being alive has a hard impact on a dogs health and life that’s most times goes unnoticed...
Logged
The Old Man
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 319


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2019, 10:32:03 pm »

Earlier this year I had a dog fall from a tree after being carried up the tree hanging on to a bear, they went 16-18 feet up and actually spiraled up the tree so the dog was swinging not just hanging, when he turned loose he fell belly up and hit on a long thin rather sharp protruding rock right on his back, he yelped, I just knew he'd broken his back. I spoke to him as he was getting up and he  immediately  came to me appearing to be sound. After getting to the truck and the long ride home he was just about to sore to go, couldn't raise his head up level and walked very slowly. I drew up about 3-4 cc's of dmso and mixed it with valbazen just to dilute it and help knock the bad flavor making it easier to get down him then squirted it down him, and gave him an aleve, he was much better the next day. Done that a couple days and he was fit as a fiddle, was hunting him 1 week later with no ill effects.
Logged
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1309


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2019, 11:30:57 am »

I like hearing your remedy old man, but I would love to have seen that. That sounds like real good watching, scary but real good.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
Reuben
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
**********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9156


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2019, 11:35:48 am »

I like hearing your remedy old man, but I would love to have seen that. That sounds like real good watching, scary but real good.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk



X2...and I would of been really proud of that dog if it were mine...
Logged

Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
Goose87
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1326


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2019, 03:27:09 pm »

Earlier this year I had a dog fall from a tree after being carried up the tree hanging on to a bear, they went 16-18 feet up and actually spiraled up the tree so the dog was swinging not just hanging, when he turned loose he fell belly up and hit on a long thin rather sharp protruding rock right on his back, he yelped, I just knew he'd broken his back. I spoke to him as he was getting up and he  immediately  came to me appearing to be sound. After getting to the truck and the long ride home he was just about to sore to go, couldn't raise his head up level and walked very slowly. I drew up about 3-4 cc's of dmso and mixed it with valbazen just to dilute it and help knock the bad flavor making it easier to get down him then squirted it down him, and gave him an aleve, he was much better the next day. Done that a couple days and he was fit as a fiddle, was hunting him 1 week later with no ill effects.


Clue I believe we all forget or just plain don’t know, myself included just how tough some dogs truly are and some are just plain out bad a$$es, a male I bred up out of my ex paw in laws stock that I’m currently raising his first sets of pups seemed like pain didn’t have any burden on him, 2 different times before he was 5 months old he had his back leg snapped clean in half but would never check up, the first time I saw it happen, he was just a little fella and stayed baying the yearlings we pre conditioned, we got a double of fresh ones in that didn’t know the place and they stampeded right over him, I just knew he was dead, he was about 3 months old, I was walking to him laying limo when he got up stumbled around a bit a took to them with his leg flopping never paying it any mind, I finally caught him and locked him up to heal only to re break it 2 months later and I left him over there when I moved thinking he was going to be crippled but he healed just fine, his first litter I bred him to his half sister/first cousin and about a month ago sent my son to load pups up to go for a ride and to let them see a hog at a different place, he came running to me saying Recon was hurt bad, he was just sitting there like a bump on a log with half his head bitten off, literally, my buddy swore he was going to die that day, I gave him an aspirin every few days and a shot of dex and two antibiotic pills once, he never showed any signs of pain and I woke up to him bayed down on my old crippled and blind horse, the eye he lost had literally popped and his head healed on up like nothing ever bothered him, I had another cur male of unknown breeding that would squall like a whooped baby over briar in his toe and limp around for days just whining over the smallest of injuries, some just got “IT” and some don’t even know what “IT” even is, goes for both man and beast...
Logged
Austesus
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 645


New to the sport and trying to gain some wisdom


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2019, 03:48:37 pm »

That’s crazy goose, what caused that head injury? It’s strange that two dogs can have such different reactions to pain, same as people. I’ve seen people that cry like a baby over anything and then I’ve seen dudes that broke their back and didn’t realize it for months


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged
The Old Man
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 319


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2019, 06:49:49 pm »

Last year I posted some pictures on another site for another fellow in W.V. whose dog had rode up the tree like that but his dog was smarter than mine, he stayed attached and rode back down as well haha.

And yes Goose through the years I have witnessed some dogs continuing to function with some really bad injuries, the desire to continue is what I call grit or gameness, not how much bite they have. I have also saw some really rough dogs or dogs with lots of bite that would puke it up if hurt.
Logged
The Old Man
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 319


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2019, 07:04:09 pm »

DMSO had been experimented with and found to be quite successful in brain and spinal injuries when given intravenously is best, orally 2nd best, topically for sprains and soreness. FDA never would approve it because it is a natural substance that could not be patented. All they ever approved it for was some sort of bladder problem.
Logged
Reuben
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
**********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9156


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2019, 07:58:26 pm »

DMSO had been experimented with and found to be quite successful in brain and spinal injuries when given intravenously is best, orally 2nd best, topically for sprains and soreness. FDA never would approve it because it is a natural substance that could not be patented. All they ever approved it for was some sort of bladder problem.

Yep...the FDA is the fox guarding the chicken coop...

Big pharma CEO’s retire from pharmaceutical companies and then they get elected to the FDA where they make rules and regulations in favor of the pharmaceutical companies...if its a natural substance they will speak negatively more so than the good...
Logged

Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1309


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2019, 08:12:17 pm »

You do.have to be careful with it. If you use it on yourself topically, you have to make sure that your skin is clean. Anything that is on your skin when you apply it is going into your system. DMSO can be found in your bones in as little as 1 hour. That's pretty potent.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
Austesus
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 645


New to the sport and trying to gain some wisdom


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2019, 12:08:48 pm »

Any update on the dog?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged
Rodeodog
Bay Dog
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 30


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2019, 12:25:05 pm »

I had to put him down. He was just getting worst. That hog killed my other lead dogon the spot so after putting walker down Iv got nothing but my bulldog left
Logged
Austesus
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 645


New to the sport and trying to gain some wisdom


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2020, 09:07:13 am »

Hate to hear that, I’m in a similar situation and starting fresh with pups.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!