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« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2019, 04:27:56 pm »

Thank y’all. For the sharp eyed, there’s another, less sociable pup growling from the back of that doghouse.
These pups are actually some sort of deer chasing mutts from an elderly relative and I don’t know much about them but He asked that I give them a chance. My old brood bitch hasn’t come in heat in over a year and I’m not ready to breed anything else of mine right now so what the heck, why not.

cracker, I’ve had a couple here and there, I’ve mostly kept a bunch of yellow Woodruff dogs though, it’s 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. All the strains of cur dogs are all so related, I just figure they’re all just family Curs anyway


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« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2019, 04:39:34 pm »

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« Reply #82 on: January 02, 2020, 04:59:16 pm »

Cajun I believe you when you say Hillbilly and his ken have a lot of go. In fact I think slipped waaaaay over here into my yard and fathered some pups, lol. Some of these walker/cats of mine look like they could be his anyway.

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« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2020, 06:36:02 pm »

Good looking pups T-dog


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« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2020, 06:43:53 pm »

T-dog, It's possible. He is pretty trashy. lol
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« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2020, 10:21:17 pm »

Lol, he must like his women a little on the trashy side.

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« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2020, 09:21:47 am »

Here are some better pics of my young dogs. . Slim. . Steel. . Diva. Off Hillbilly. Not a good pic. . Showtime off Hillbilly. . Tx off Hillbilly. Tx is only 8 months old and never been to the woods yet but he can sure find the hog in my 25 acre pen. So far Hillbilly is sure putting the nose and go in his pups.


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« Reply #87 on: January 03, 2020, 09:36:09 am »

Very nice looking dogs cajun. All the pics didn't download for me but it could be because I'm on my phone. That Tex pup looks like he should have plenty of wind. I like that build. I have a question. Obviously Steel is a throw back. Do you see a difference in the throw backs in any way? For instance my dad had a family of game chickens that were pumpkin colored. Some came lighter, some darker, some with white in them, and now and then solid white. The solid white ones were wild natured, like pheasant wild. I've known other families that would produce throw backs and sometimes there was only the visual difference and other times while they were good as well, were a different style performance wise. Just curious, but again, real fine looking dogs.

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« Reply #88 on: January 03, 2020, 09:52:29 am »

They all downloaded now. Very nice set of young dogs.

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« Reply #89 on: January 03, 2020, 05:47:04 pm »

Tdog...nice looking pups...I like those thick fore arms on a pup and dog...

Good looking pups Cajun...
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« Reply #90 on: January 03, 2020, 10:45:17 pm »

t-dog, maltese brindles like Steel have pretty much always been in the Plott breed. Depending on the strain there is quite a few of them around. It is a dilute gene attached to the black.
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« Reply #91 on: January 03, 2020, 10:56:48 pm »

Do the maltese or the buckskin colored dogs work differently? I guess like do they tend be rougher or faster or vise versus or re they just plotts in a different color wrapper? I like the color myself. Steel looks quick and explosive. He doesn't appear to be as lanky as the others but that could be the way he's bred and nothing to do with color.

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« Reply #92 on: January 03, 2020, 11:37:38 pm »

They are just Plotts of a different color, and there has been much debate on the "solid color issue" through the years. They "UKC" is just now going to accept solid colored Plotts. The Buckskin has been a battle since the forty's even though the original Plott standard drawn up by old breeders of much notoriety allowed for solid black and an occasional buckskin. Prior to 1/1/20 UKC registered Plotts had to have brindle on them somewhere to meet the standard.
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« Reply #93 on: January 04, 2020, 06:13:49 am »

Thanks old man, those kinda things have always interested me. I think they are doing the breed a favor by allowing those other colors to be registered. Sometimes a color I an indicator. The blue gene in the APBT was a prime example. Back in the day, if a person got a blue pup in a litter, it was culled immediately. Those dogs were inferior in every way, from performance to health. It got the point where that color gene was nearly obsolete. The modern blue pitbull isn't the same. Neo Mastiff was bred in to get the color. I know there have to be standards, that's a given, but you can't exclude things just because it isn't "your preference" if it isn't a detriment like the blue in the pits of old. Breeding for color has hurt and even ruined more than one breed.

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« Reply #94 on: January 04, 2020, 09:02:38 am »

You hit on a couple of points, the side of the debate that were opposed to the buckskin Plotts felt like it indicated Redbone. Someone may have put Redbone in them but not all buckskins are part redbone, they had always been part of the breed. And I have heard of solid blue dogs in the breed having some health issues.
 Back when all this disagreement came up there was a Plott "promoter" that opposed the buckskins because of the aforementioned reason but wanted "and eventually got" the UKC/NPHA standard changed for size and earspread as well, so he could promote some bloodhound crossed dogs, he wanted a bigger, longer eared, bawl mouthed Plott, when in fact lots of the old Plott people had always called them Plott Curs they weren't as a rule big houndy bawl mouthed dogs.
My own belief is that far enough back they probably had a  little of everything in them that had ever ran loose in the NC and Tenn. mountains, but there was a select group of people that bred and selected for "bear dogs that excelled on bear", with one another that certain traits were solidified and thus the "breed" was born.
 I believe the wide spread Plott history to be incorrect in part, but there were documented outcrosses as well before the registration began. Quite a few years ago the APA got with AKC and reinstated the original Plott breed standard and AKC went back to the "original" size and color standard. NPHA/UKC is the one now changing back to the old color standard but the size with them is not changing back.
 There's a short version of a battle that has lasted for generations within the breed and will probably continue for many years to come haha.



 
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« Reply #95 on: January 04, 2020, 09:10:20 am »

I have always called them Plott Dogs because to me they are not a hound nor a Cur. When asked to describe them to someone unfamiliar to the breed I tell them they are typically like a cold nosed open trailing Cur dog, a mix of the normal Hound/Cur traits.
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« Reply #96 on: January 04, 2020, 03:49:43 pm »

That's pretty much been my understanding of the plott dogs. I was was always taught the origin of the plott to be the same as your belief.  I have hunted with quite a few pure plotts and a bunch of plott crosses. I knew the other colors were out there but never hunted with anything but the regular brindle colored dogs so I was curious. Thanks for sharing with us.

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« Reply #97 on: January 04, 2020, 06:29:30 pm »

Tdog, Maltese, Buckskin, brindle, it has no bearing on their ability. It is just a color, just like Labs, black, chocolate or yellow, they are still labs. Steel is a little fat in that pic. lol He is a pretty nice dog with nose and a ton of grit. He is on injured reserve right now along with a couple of others from last week. Today we got Hillbilly, Hank and Showtime all tore up with Hillbilly getting it the worse. He was leaking air and my hunt was over for the day. We caught the boar but I headed home to patch them up. Other guys had a heck of a hunt catching about 7 more.
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« Reply #98 on: January 04, 2020, 06:42:07 pm »

Nice dogs yall good luck with the prospects.

Cajun your plotts are a fine bunch of animals.
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« Reply #99 on: January 04, 2020, 06:52:03 pm »

Man I hate to hear that cajun. Hope they heal quick. Ole Steel has that salty look to him lol. I've always liked the plott dogs.

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