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Author Topic: Shep x Cur, who’s done it and has something to say about it  (Read 2622 times)
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« on: December 24, 2019, 08:56:01 pm »

Still love bouncing ideas off y’all even after all this time lol... this is a cross I’ve been working towards for a while.

Goal?  Add bite/speed/athleticism without losing anything but working sense

Outcrossing on the right Shep/Mali line will be key
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2019, 10:19:44 am »

First I'd say I'm the least of you in experience and advice to give, but if I was going to venture down this road I would consider the Belgian Malinois. To me, they seem to fit the athletic, smarts and bite profile you described.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2019, 10:21:25 am »

After posting, I see you mentioned the malinois. Never mind.  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2019, 11:08:57 am »

Fellow I know Is crossing border collie with lurcher style dogs for the brains and athleticism, and selecting the one’s that have natural treeing tendencies and crossing them back over treeing stock and is creating his own style of bobcat hound, my favorite kinda stuff to read about...
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2019, 07:37:03 pm »

He’s ruffled enough feathers in the bobcat hunting world to fully feather a flock of turkeys but as far as I know has yet had a single heavy hitter in that world step up to the plate and call his bluff with open invitations on the table for them to come to him or he to them to show his dogs abilities to do as he claims...
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2019, 07:39:35 pm »

If I can get my hands on the right Mali in my price range, I will have my next catch dog prospect, they have almost everything I like in a catchdog except for being longer coated than most moulasser type breeds...
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2019, 07:54:58 pm »

Good stuff broth Goose
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2019, 12:55:49 pm »

I would say the right Malinois Shepherd of the Police dog stock that are used to run down and stop criminals would be the type to use with the right breed or strain of proven catch dogs...

Good to see you on here Noah...
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2019, 03:55:42 pm »

I have absolutely no experience with this, but I would suggest strongly looking at the Malinois that you select. The ones the military use are typically not from America from what I’ve heard/seen, (although I may be thinking of German Shepherds not Belgian Malinois) but they are tested extensively and one of the tests is will they hold on to a person while that person is beating on them trying to make them let go. I have read some posts from a guy that works them as well as hog dogs (his name is calicatchers on instagram, great page to check out) and he has posted before about how it takes a very hard dog to go under a house or in a room and hold a grown man after the dog has been beaten or even shot. In special operations it’s not unheard of to have a dog kill someone. Some of the SOF dogs have multiple kills from clearing houses. I would do a lot of digging to try and find a dog off of those lines


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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2019, 08:34:25 pm »

Good to see you again as well Reuben, bred a lot, hunted a lot, culled a lot since we last spoke lol... but I have made headway in concentrating my old blood for posterity so I might experiment with said outcrosses for my own amusement lol... and yes Austesis, me and Cali have spoken lol... two likeminded fruitcakes on opposite coasts
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2019, 09:05:51 pm »

That’s awesome Noah, he’s an extremely intelligent man. I wish he was on here, he has a lot of interesting posts and good reads on instagram. I love how open minded he is with a lot of different breeds and methods of working dogs.


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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2019, 12:29:34 pm »

Just had this guy pop up on Facebook, looks like he works Belgian Malinois on hogs


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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2019, 07:53:51 pm »

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2120733791474855&id=100006147647566&fs=0&focus_composer=0
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2019, 07:56:36 pm »

Thinking about breeding this dog to a cat/dogo jyp.
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2019, 07:59:36 pm »

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1881521472062756&id=100006147647566
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2019, 05:51:24 am »

Not saying that the cross will work or it won’t, but what that guy is doing to that dog in the vids is not even close to the resistance a good boar will dish out.
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2020, 10:52:48 am »

I read a book on Ben Lilly believe he liked a dog with some collie in it or at least hunted a few on big game.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2020, 12:44:58 pm »

I really have had good luck with mal/dutch sh.'s from 187 kennells on FB. He is an old dog man
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2020, 01:01:42 pm »

I never hunted mine but i can guarantee they had the endurance and speed of any cur/hound type dog. And if they can smell out drugs and bombs i'd imagine they like to use their nose to track
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