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« on: May 05, 2020, 09:10:53 am »

I want to read a good story so I figured this was the place to come lol. I want to hear about the single biggest/baddest/meanest/rankest hog that you have ever had dealings with, I'm sure most of you have run into "that" hog at some point in your hunting careers.....you know the one im talking about...im talking about the hog that all other good ones have been compared to since then, the one that made your dogs really step up and get it done.........if you haven't met that hog yet then consider yourself lucky! I will add a story or two to this post a bit later on. looking forward to reading your replies
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2020, 12:07:30 pm »

I have a story on here somewhere about the Bounty hog. I will try to find it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 03:37:57 pm »

I have a story on here somewhere about the Bounty hog. I will try to find it.


 Sorry Cajun, I couldn't wait!

 http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=78253.0
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2020, 07:51:46 pm »

This hog was not the biggest I have ever caught but hands down he was the meanest. I found his track going into a bad 2 year old cutover at the beginning of summer in 2018. I turned loose on him in that same spot 6 times throughout the summer before finally catching him. He accounted for a lot of emergency tailgate surgeries. Every time I turned loose on him I had to sew something up. He had a very simple and effective game plan. The dogs would always bay him the first time pretty quick and most of the time in the same spot in that bad thicket. He would stay bayed for just a minute or two, then pick out one of the dogs and bull rush it and then off to the races. The first time he butchered my old dog and put the other pup off on a sow and pigs. The second time started off the same way except he didn’t throw the dogs off on other hogs. Instead he swam the Tombigbee River so I called the dogs off and had to start sewing. The third, fourth, and Fifth was exactly like the first. He was a running joker after he would break bay the first time. The final time the two dogs I turned loose on him both still had staples in them from an earlier encounter with him. They bayed him quick and luckily they both got out of the way when he tried to bull rush them. He done his usual and went the same way but this time I decided as soon as I turned loose we would drive around to where he would normally cross a road and try to turn him a different direction from the thicket that he always seemed to put the dogs off on other hogs. Luckily it worked and he went into the open hardwoods and the dogs hung with him for a pretty long race. I had to work nights that night and it had gotten late in the morning so we went and turned a couple more dogs loose in a different spot because I really didnt want to let the guy that was with me go home empty handed. Shortly after turning the other dogs loose I was watching the Garmin close and it appeared that the other dogs were barely at a walking pace so I assumed they had burnt out so I quit watching the Garmin and ended up catching two sows before noticing that they were still walking the same creek bed back and forth in a 15 yard stretch. I guess they were moving just enough to where it didn’t show treed. So I drove 200 yards from them and stopped to listen. I didn’t hear anything so I drove up to about 80 yards and they started back baying. We started to them with the bulldog and when I got close enough to see them and they were walking back and forth 10-20 yards in front of a stump hole with him backed up in it. Sent the bulldog and the fight was on. He was one rank joker.

 I don’t know if I couldn’t hear them down in that hole from 200 yards or if they wasn’t baying until I got close enough they heard the ranger coming but I fully understand why they stayed so far back from him. Lol. I love to catch big toothy boar hogs but I will be ok if I never get on another one as rank as that joker was.


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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2020, 07:23:22 pm »

Good stories good hogs them kind all ways make you pay for them we have caught several like that though the years but caught one this year that probably end up being one of these kinda stories we cut him turned him loose we guessed him at 280-290 he had  some big teeth and knew how to use em he was bad rank I am sure be worse next time around for us or whoever else runs into him

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2020, 07:43:26 pm »

That was a good story Caleb, sounded like a smart one


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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2020, 10:44:33 am »



This hog hasn’t been caught yet, but he has depleted my pack 3 times. The first time I got on him he killed one of my bulldogs and completly wrecked my other, dogs still had him bayed so I called another boy and he brought another bulldog and we sent him and he got beat up really bad. The second time we got on him, he took the cur dogs to a nasty canyon and completly tore them to peices killing one, I never got to send the bulldogs. I got on him again 2 weeks ago Sunday and it was the same song and dance and got my best dog killed in the same spot. He definitely knows how to handle the dogs.  He hangs out in the same place year round and when the dogs get on him he runs the same route to the same place and crosses a dirt road so I could set up and wait for him there but  I really want to catch him fair and square.


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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2020, 11:05:04 am »

A lot of guys don’t understand the thought process behind catching a bad hog like that, but when you do throw him, it’ll be a story worth telling!
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2020, 11:44:06 am »

A lot of guys don’t understand the thought process behind catching a bad hog like that, but when you do throw him, it’ll be a story worth telling!
Can you explain a little what you mean, cause I’m probably one of those guys who don’t understand lol.


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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2020, 03:03:17 pm »

A lot of guys don’t understand the thought process behind catching a bad hog like that, but when you do throw him, it’ll be a story worth telling!
Can you explain a little what you mean, cause I’m probably one of those guys who don’t understand lol.


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Not speaking on Bens behalf but what I think he means is if the same strategy and approach keep yielding the same unsuccessful results then it’s time to go back to the drawing board and rethink things unless you just want to keep losing dogs, hogs like him have already learned how things work when the dogs show up and has learned to use the strength of pack mentality to his advantage, in numbers dogs will feel more confident and it leads to over confidence, a bad hog will most times pick out whichever aggressor is giving him the most bother and zero in on it or has learned where he can go to stand his ground and make his fight to his advantage, to each his own but it makes me chuckle when I hear it see where people are against cutting game off at crossings and such as that, I 1000% agree with catching one fair and square, everyone has different definitions, mine is not using a pack of running catch dogs to lug one down to the point the laws of physics take over and he’s just out numbered or using a gun to cripple one to slow it down, I’m not perfect and have done both but don’t make it a practice or habit, but cutting one off at a crossing isn’t “cheating”, I look at it as a challenge and every time I get defeated I also learn more about hogs like yours, they expose their patterns and routes over time, thus “outsmarting” his opponent, learn to use that against him, if you know where his route throw a wrench in his gears, you’ll most likely surprise him and throw him out of routine, break his pattern and routine and get him out of his element he’ll have to rethink his strategy on the fly and that’s when they slip up, in your case it sounds more like 2 dependable loose baying dogs would make him hold bay, and a pair of catchdogs sent in from complete opposite sides of the bay from one another and have a rougher bay dog or 2 sent in if needed behind the catch dogs in case he breaks, even then that approach may not work and after several times of trying to catch him one way and no results time to change up strategy again, it’s these kinda hogs I LOVE, to me numbers don’t mean anything compared out smarting wise old boars like him, I’m about the challenge and feel more accomplished once I’ve won after being defeated time and again, than I do piling up the sows and shoats, everyone gets different joys out of different aspects of the hunt and that’s just mine...
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2020, 04:21:51 pm »

A lot of guys don’t understand the thought process behind catching a bad hog like that, but when you do throw him, it’ll be a story worth telling!
Can you explain a little what you mean, cause I’m probably one of those guys who don’t understand lol.


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Not speaking on Bens behalf but what I think he means is if the same strategy and approach keep yielding the same unsuccessful results then it’s time to go back to the drawing board and rethink things unless you just want to keep losing dogs, hogs like him have already learned how things work when the dogs show up and has learned to use the strength of pack mentality to his advantage, in numbers dogs will feel more confident and it leads to over confidence, a bad hog will most times pick out whichever aggressor is giving him the most bother and zero in on it or has learned where he can go to stand his ground and make his fight to his advantage, to each his own but it makes me chuckle when I hear it see where people are against cutting game off at crossings and such as that, I 1000% agree with catching one fair and square, everyone has different definitions, mine is not using a pack of running catch dogs to lug one down to the point the laws of physics take over and he’s just out numbered or using a gun to cripple one to slow it down, I’m not perfect and have done both but don’t make it a practice or habit, but cutting one off at a crossing isn’t “cheating”, I look at it as a challenge and every time I get defeated I also learn more about hogs like yours, they expose their patterns and routes over time, thus “outsmarting” his opponent, learn to use that against him, if you know where his route throw a wrench in his gears, you’ll most likely surprise him and throw him out of routine, break his pattern and routine and get him out of his element he’ll have to rethink his strategy on the fly and that’s when they slip up, in your case it sounds more like 2 dependable loose baying dogs would make him hold bay, and a pair of catchdogs sent in from complete opposite sides of the bay from one another and have a rougher bay dog or 2 sent in if needed behind the catch dogs in case he breaks, even then that approach may not work and after several times of trying to catch him one way and no results time to change up strategy again, it’s these kinda hogs I LOVE, to me numbers don’t mean anything compared out smarting wise old boars like him, I’m about the challenge and feel more accomplished once I’ve won after being defeated time and again, than I do piling up the sows and shoats, everyone gets different joys out of different aspects of the hunt and that’s just mine...
I have only hunted him with 2 loose bay dogs. Both cur dogs that I’ve lost to him have only been cut a handful of times in their entire lives. One was 10 another 5.  They have been on plenty of bad hogs in the course of their lives. I’m not setting my dogs up for failure. I’ve got way to much blood sweat and tears involved in them to send them into certain death.


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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2020, 06:01:29 pm »

Joshg223...sounds like a dog hater...I’ve dealt with several over the year...on one we had to develop a plan on how to catch him...we made the plan to send to guys ahead and setup at strategic locations and then I cast one strike dog to make sure he was at his usual spot and he was...turned in the rest of the pack and they caught him in the open...my brother said the hog seemed to stop and was spinning and wanted the dogs to come on in...I suspect he did that and then he would run into a big patch of saplings that were growing about ten inches apart and all were about an inch in diameter...that was how he made his getaway...

My brother sic’ed the dogs on him and they caught long enough so he could take care of business...

I do have another story on a dog killer and he knew how to do it...I’m talking about good dogs...
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2020, 06:12:45 pm »

Back when we had local baying contest there was a big cream colored hog...his skin pigmentation as well as hair and tusk appeared to be the same color...no shades of other colors, this made him unique...but he also had another unique quality about him...he knew how to kill a dog...

He made a few half hearted passes at a dog and then he would back up to a corner or fence and once the setup was right he made his move...one good hit and it was a fatal hit...after a while folks would pass on this hog... I also passed on him...after a while he was sold and taken out of the bay pen...
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2020, 10:13:58 am »

Years ago there was a hog right here below the house that I had struck 2 different times in the same place and he would run around the end of the bottom, cross the big creek and bay in a bad thicket, but before you could get there he would run over a dog and leave, he had left a dog cut down bad enough on both occasions that I had carried them out. There was a young fellow hunting with me quite a bit and he brought 2 more fellows that had never been hog hunting to go with us. We were riding mules and left from my yard, we went down towards the creek and struck this same hog. We had 3 dogs, 2 of mine and a half breed pup I had accidentally raised and let the boy that had been hunting with me have. Sure enough they ran around the edge  of the bottom crossed the creek and bayed in the same thicket. While we were getting across the creek and up the steep slick bank one of the boys mules got down in the creek and he went completely under ruined his phone. During this the hog ran over a dog and left, once again one of my dogs did not leave the spot. I knew where he was going so we didn't follow the dogs over the hill but went back up the creek bottom, I told them he would come back to the creek a couple of miles up. Sure enough and true to pattern he did, somewhere the half breed pup had fell out and the one dog had the hog bayed when we got to where we could hear him, before we got there the halfbreed pup got back to him. We rode up there to within about 75 yds and I got off my mule and went to taking the cut vest off my little red bulldog, he hated a vest and with it on when I cut him to a bay he would trot off and stop and look at you then go on in slowly, without the vest he would fire and if the hog broke he would run with the dogs for hours.
That boy that hunted with me quite a bit asked what are you doing, I replied I'm doing my best to catch this hog I am tired of him wrecking a dog and getting away. I sent the bulldog and jumped back on my mule and we started their way at a trot, I heard him catch and hustled in there tied my mule up and went to catch the hog, he was wearing my little bulldog on his ear and still fighting at the baydogs. When I approached them he faced me, I noticed his eyes glowed red, I started to slowly circle him and he kept facing me, when I got 180 degrees I said to the guys, catch him he is facing me, nobody showed up haha. I quit moving and got real quiet and he went to slapping the bulldog around and turned away from me, I caught him. When I threw him I looked around and my normal hunting partner was right there to help, one of the new boys was coming down a tree the other was coming out from behind a big tree haha. We tied him down and drug him to the nearest road, while I was rigging him to drag we  noticed his cutters were broken off but his whets were extra long and nearly straight out, he had been cutting the dogs with his whets. He was a 250 or so Russian colored hog. We went back to the original spot of the bay and I tracked to my injured dog, he was hurt but not so bad he couldn't walk so I led him out "if I didn't lead him he would just lay down" he got well.
The next morning I went out to the trailer and was  looking the hog over, and he had sky blue eyes, nothing wrong with them and not a white hair on him I guess that was why his eyes glowed when you shined a light on him. I have only saw one more blue eyed hog and don't quite understand how it is possible but that doesn't change the fact haha.  I'll always remember the Blue Eyed Hog.
Before too long that fellow that hunted with me sold his dog and mule and quit the hog hunting game, but that halfbreed pup went on to make a real nice dog and gained quite a reputation, and changed hands 2 or 3 times. Still now and then someone will call and ask if I raised him and if I have anymore like him, I tell them no he was just an accident.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2020, 12:07:10 pm »

Man that was a good story Old Man!


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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2020, 07:53:28 am »

I'm gonna say one the worst jams I've been in came 2 days after having a plate and screws put in my arm. I got the bright idea to take two big pups out and let them run while I just eased around on foot in this set of woods I had never hunted. I wanted to see what the lay out was and I needed out of the house. As luck would have it those two young dogs found a boar hog about 235#. He broke and ran about 50 yards down into a dry creek bed and turned to fight. Well, I was leading a bulldog that had seen ONE hog. I thought I would try and get a better handle on him while we explored. So, they bayed it and instincts said cut the catchdog to it. Common sense should've said don't be stupid, common sense lost! BAM, caught hog! I run up there and immediately remember why I shouldn't have done that, I was literally one armed. We wrestled and stumbled and faught for what seemed like an eternity. Between my bad arm, the hogs size, and the position of the bulldog, I was starting to wonder how this was gonna turn out. I couldn't let him go because my now spent green bulldog was still on an ear. Even if he hadn't been, there was nowhere to go to out of the way of this angry beast with 2" machetes. Finally I got him thrown. The problem now was that I had dropped my knife in the fight and we had stomped it down in the sand so deep I couldn't find it. I had tried to stick him but I didn't have strength enough in the bad hand to do it and couldn't turn loose with the good because I couldn't hold him with the bad one. It was middle of the summer and hot as all get out so myself, the catchdog, and Mr. Hawg are all HOTTTT. Finally I remembered I had a pair of hand cuffs so I cuffed one hind leg and used my knee to push it to a front leg and cuffed him. Then I ran a lead from the cuffs up over a big root on the bank and kept his feet turned to the sky. I went and dug my knife up and then stuck him with my good arm. I decided right then and there I would never let those dogs talk me into anything like that again.

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