September 28, 2020, 02:04:23 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: ETHD....WE'RE ALL ABOUT HOG DOGGIN!
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Jagged broken tooth  (Read 680 times)
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« on: April 12, 2020, 12:08:31 am »

Would a jagged broke k9 make a dog regrip or act soft mouthed? She’s going for a dental Monday but she regrips bad and I gave her a hot dog and she  just kept droppinng it. I’d like some info because of the breed. I’m hoping after they pull the tooth she stops because she’s hog crazy and is as cool as a cucumber until walking to a bay. She’s one of those white dogs and if this don’t work I’ll schedule to get her fixed and rehomed but I would just like some input so I don’t get my hopes up.
Logged

Mathews mission venture
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1293


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2020, 07:28:16 am »

How did she break the tooth? I have seen this many times over the years. What most people don't realize is how much torque is put on teeth. I've seen many teeth knocked out and folded back beside the gum. When you cut it out there's bone attached to it. This happens a whole lot when a dog catches across the top of the head, the snout, or anywhere there is bone on bone contact so to speak. An ear will give by coming off, flexing, or tearing out. A bone doesn't have that ability so when there is bone to bone and enough force is applied, the weaker of the two has to give. If the there was enough pressure to break the tooth, there's a possibility that the jaw bone could be broke or fractured around that area. Teeth also have nerves. Sometimes when they get broke, an exposed nerve will abscess. This will cause them to not want to be comfortable.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1293


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2020, 07:32:58 am »

I've had dogs that were catch good all of a sudden start losing hogs, not hitting their marks etc. I put them up for a few weeks and most of them returned to the original form. Catch dogs take a pounding and no matter where it's located, a bruised bone hurts as bad as a broke bone. I would put her on some antibiotics for possible abscess, and soak her feed as well as put her up for a few weeks. JMO

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2020, 09:32:46 am »

I’m not for sure how she broke it I have only owned her for a few weeks and my cousin had said she regripped the first thing I did when I got her home was look in her mouth. Hopefully it’s not to far along. It makes sense though and is comforting. She doesn’t have an oz of aggression in her we ended up going from momma to Harley because she looks like one of them old school clowns. I finally made me a breadstick after 2 years of hunting and it’s great. She seems like an ear dog but I’ve only had her on one. I need to take a second look. I hope it works. I feel like I can trust her around cows and I’m about to start rcding her and my male dogo.
Logged

Mathews mission venture
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2020, 09:39:16 am »

Thankfully my woman works at the vet she’s going to and she’s already in love with her so I’m sure she’s going to get checked out left right side to side.
Logged

Mathews mission venture
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1293


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2020, 10:50:34 am »

Dogs regrip for lots of reasons. Sometimes its inexperience, sometimes it's a weak bite and they aren't confident, sometimes its injury, and sometimes they are just that kind of dog. You can fix some of that and some of it you will have to decide if you can live with it.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2020, 07:10:18 pm »

But if pulling the bad tooth doesn’t help she wouldn’t be worth breeding to for personal use?
Logged

Mathews mission venture
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1293


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2020, 07:47:25 pm »

Personally, I wouldn't breed her if it didn't fix it. I also wouldn't pull the tooth unnecessarily. To me, a good dog is worth taking a chance on. I did it a few years ago and it bit me. It set me back and wasted a lot of time and money. I didn't have a better option at the time so I took the chance. Problem was I didn't know his back ground. There are so many variables when you breed dogs. Knowing her back ground may help you know why she's doing what she's doing. Was she a catch dog when you got her? Were her parents, grandparents, or siblings catch dogs? Is she a good catch dog or does she just catch? Does she have the style you're looking for? All these type questions will help you know how much money or time to put into her and it will help you determine if she's breed worthy. Don't confuse a sweet pet for a breed worthy catch dog. Keep us posted on what you figure out.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
Reuben
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
**********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9152


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2020, 08:54:51 pm »

I’ve had a few dogs with broken teeth and they were able to keep doing their jobs...I really didn’t see them with any pain...I didn’t see regripping but I don’t think they were 100 percent...

If her broke tooth heals she might be able to use what little she has...
Logged

Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2020, 12:48:50 am »

I’m not for sure on her family but she was a catchdog before hand. He had bettter and hooked me up with two older curs the dogo and a pointer. Pretty good deal Other than being crazy fast to a bay and have the drive she’s got the heat beat the attitude and endurance we can walk her around fully vested and by the end of the night she’s fine. She’s almost the same size as my male and shys away from aggressive dogs  she grabs holds for a few lets go holds for a few. I figure that’s why she has so many battle scars. The canine is broke before the gum line where the tooth is thick looks like it’s been broke for awhile. My male dogo has only one top canine that’s healed over  and he holds tighter than my pit mix I think. One day hunting with my brother we were sitting there bsing while the dogs were out and I looked in my pitmixes mouth and his canine was completely out hanging side ways by the gum line just then they open up and I told my brother welp gotta work with what we got. We send him in and got to the bay he was regripping terribly thankfully it was only a half a handful of a sow and they bay up the boar same thing he had almost got me in bad trouble. I ended up waiting until the spot healed before I made my decision  and now he doesn’t regrip as bad or at all but I still will not use him by his self just because of what if. I feel kind of foolish for answering my own question but I was looking for more input by more experienced guys. Quick question t dog what do you mean you took a chance on a good dog and it set you back
Logged

Mathews mission venture
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2020, 01:23:04 am »

I’d also like to add that i am no  breeder by any means even though I mentioned if it fixed her problem I’d like to just have 3-4 straight catch dogs to run with my strike dogs and these seem to have the endurance for it. I have bought a few that were supposed to be that, not so much. I figure I can breed my own and give the rest to friends that are pretty tough on when the rubber meets the road. I’m sorry I just didn’t want to come off like the kind of guy that sees dreams more than reality or one that peddles pups out of unproven parents.
Logged

Mathews mission venture
t-dog
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1293


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2020, 08:04:33 am »

Cheston I think the biggest part of people on this board like raising their own dogs. Either they had trouble finding exactly what they wanted and wanted to improve on the closest thing they had found or they just wanted to be able to have the pride of being able to say they were responsible for what they were hunting from A to Z. Don't feel foolish about answering your own questions. The fact that you didn't allow foolish pride to get in your way will be one of your greatest assets. What I meant by taking a chance on a good dog was this. I have a family of catch dogs that I've raised for over 20 years. I don't raise what I would consider a lot of dogs, just enough to keep myself in stock and my breeding going. I dont sale pups. I place them with friends and other hunters that I can work with a d either get pups back from when they breed or breed to the dog I have given to them if necessary. It's kind of you scratch my back I scratch yours type thing. I got in a funk with my bulldogs because too many folks were doing what I considered stupid stuff with them or weren't taking care of them. I had fella call me once and while talking was telling me that he wasn't happy with the dog he got from me as a pup. I surprised me because every litter mate, including mine, were beasts. So I set up a hunt and went. When he dropped the dog out of the box it was instant pissed off for me. The poor dog was so skinny, so eat up with fleas, probably a third of his hair was gone, eyes matted nearly shut, cuts that hadn't been tended to that a vest would've prevented, etc. etc.! I asked him what he wanted for the dog that I'd BUY him back right then and there. I think I gave him enough money for a couple sacks of feed, loaded the dog and left. I didn't even hunt with the guy and haven't had dealings with him since. I of course told him after the dog was mine how chicken sh__ I thought he was for expecting anything from anything in that shape. The fact that the dog would even try for him still made me proud of the dog. This type stuff happened more than once and put me in a funk about other people getting my bulldogs. Because of that, I bred myself into a whole by not raising enough to continue my breeding program the way I had been doing it. I didn't have nor have access to a good stud so I bred to an outside dog that my nephew had. He was just like my dogs in every way except his look. He was super smart at rest or in the heat of the moment. Went into the bay under control and thinking about what he was going to do. Had a want to please you mentality. He had a good bite. He was athletic and had good air. He had size and handled extremely well. His build was slightly different from my dogs and is head shape too. That was the only real difference. I've said many times, if you put something bad there, no matter how far away you breed from it, it's still there. It proved to be true here. The F1 cross was ok. I raised one male that I kept that was on his way to being a the best I had ever been to the woods with. I was gonna have to really pick him apart to find a short coming. He died in a kennel accident that he didn't start with a POS  that was an outside bred dog. Just a freak deal. The crosses after that though have been way off the mark. It was like looking at one of my dogs with an alien inside it. Some of them didn't resemble my dogs or him physically and didn't act like either side either. The word hate comes to mind when I think of them. So I wasted a lot of time and money breeding to something that I could only take at face value. If it had worked I would've been lucky. He was nice enough to gamble on but he went through a lot of testing.

Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk

Logged
chestonmcdowell
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 579


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2020, 06:15:32 pm »

Wel guys it seemingly has helped a ton I haven’t gotten her on that many pigs but it’s a night and day difference
Logged

Mathews mission venture
WayOutWest
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1178


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2020, 09:21:40 pm »

[Good deal man]
Logged
gary fuller
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 544


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2020, 09:30:25 pm »

cool beans. great to hear that.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!