Next generation

[t-dog]

Awesome hunt but maybe more pics of dogs and hogs, the team ain’t very purdy lol. You have to learn from us older hands. You don’t hardly ever see me in the pics.


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[Slim9797]

Awesome hunt but maybe more pics of dogs and hogs, the team ain’t very purdy lol. You have to learn from us older hands. You don’t hardly ever see me in the pics.


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Us kids and those dang selfies lmao


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[Slim9797]

Good pics and good hogs Slim. I am sure Sketch will get Goose going in the right direction. That was a pile of hogs y'all caught.

Thanks Cajun. I sure hope sketch has it left in her. We’ve got 6 long yearlings and 3 older dogs really going and they’ve been leaving her behind after the first couple. She’s been good for it here around the house still so hopefully she’s good for a few for goose and his owner.

We have in the last year or 2 tried to become better students of the hog. Our country can be tough to navigate but we have figured a few places out and how the hogs travel. It has been a game changer from 5-7 to double that. Make no mistake, we are amongst them when we are catching that many. It’s 15 out of 100+. We’re not catching 15 off your normal group of 20-30. That would be something pretty impressive.


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[Slim9797]

We got asked last minute to jump In a contest this past weekend. Came up short but weighed the biggest boar in and managed 4th out of 11 and caught the biggest boar. He was 292 hanging. And 233 gutted. Night time picture is a boar we caught with lizzo out of some feed bunks. Caught another big sow with her right after we had the hogs to win it bayed and catch dogs were holding up their end of the deal. Had fun and our dogs did good.

We were a little bummed after weigh in so we went and loaded some straight up puppies. 1st cast they went and found trouble. 2nd cast we were split on 2 groups. Ended up getting one killed behind Hank P, Rusty, and Goose. Latter 2 being out of me and t dogs litter


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[t-dog]

If you walk away proud then you won. Hog hunting comps are different than any other competition I can think of. Lots of variables that influence the outcome and as many times as not, the quality of the dogs isn’t the biggest one. Looks like y’all bagged some real good ones. 290# is a grown up for sure.


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[Slim9797]

If you walk away proud then you won. Hog hunting comps are different than any other competition I can think of. Lots of variables that influence the outcome and as many times as not, the quality of the dogs isn’t the biggest one. Looks like y’all bagged some real good ones. 290# is a grown up for sure.


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We walked away with heads held high. Tims Tiny and roach, my king and lizzo, and Rhett’s Gidget earned their feed no doubt. Caught 10ish hogs around 200. Closer to 20 on the weekend, just not good enough to beat a 220 average on 3 gutted hogs. Some boys from down south showed up with some absolute hammers. I’ll tip my cap to three 280 lb hogs any day.


Best part was the puppies getting bayed Sunday evening. That’s what we’re about. Piss on that tournament in the long run.


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[The Old Man]

 You guys are piling them up, hogs in your area better spread the word that it's time for a move.

[Slim9797]

You guys are piling them up, hogs in your area better spread the word that it's time for a move.

We cover lots of country so over 3 counties. Fayette, Colorado, and some Lavaca county. About a 40 mile square we live within. Don’t stray from it much. Not the best hog country overall, but such as anywhere there’s pockets good as any. Most of the good stuff is Tim’s country, we hunt lost of country with cattle on feed between me and him.

We do not kill everything we bay either. We are responsible for I’d say a respectable 100 potential barr hogs over the last 6-7 years. Seen other hogs multiple times before as well.


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[Slim9797]

Dogs been sorry the last 2 times or so we’ve used them. Took lizzo other night middle of the week with a buddy right down the county road at sunset. Sitting 250 yards from a feeder behind a lady’s house she been seeing a boar hog or 2 every night. Sure enough 5 minutes before last light, I thought I saw 2 hogs break the brush line(have a thermal borrowed from a buddy) a ways a part but only ever seen one after that. He got to feeder as I vested lizzo. I let my buddy keep the thermal at the truck and told him to watch the hog. If that hog goes to leave he is to turn my running lights back on on my truck.

Stalk all the way to him at 30 maybe 40 yards I’d say. It’s dark now though. I can just see his outline in under this feeder in a pretty oak Mott. He figures us out about the time she  is locked on him and I send her. She got to him fairly quick and last I could see through the grass she appeared to be in his hip pocket. Knowing what she does I’m thinking she tried to ham that hog to spin it and he was right at the fence and he fenced her. I was told it’s a notorious thing with greyhounds and they just innately suck crossing fences or gates, they can’t really swim and don’t really jump.

Then we went to Tim’s cattle co. And we harrass these hogs pretty good. A lot of people around there do with different means. But dogs acted like they couldn’t smell at 10 when we started. Finally spoon and king busted out of the creek and pulled a big 3/4 circle back in to our face. where I had just been saying I was waiting on them to bay. Send some help and it’s a group in a bunch of rosehedge. We end up with a big nothing I think off of that. We had spoon and his brother pilgrim and Tim’s tiny gyp bayed finally after like 2 hours then the time I go to walk in there I hear a bunch of distant gun shots, maybe next pasture over across the road. And then someone burps a first responder siren on the county road. Dogs come out. I don’t know what the deal was there. Don’t think it was related but I was definitely saying let’s pick up and reset.

Jumped just down the road to some country his uncle put together and kinda has some hog proofing done. I was pretty sure there was no hogs inside the fence and there were some close outside after 2 cast on bottom end. came back to the middle to some fresh bulldozed trailed and send em again and they find a cheap 100 lb sow to run around in a circle and catch. Went back to the pens and swapped some of Tim’s dogs around. Go back to a part of the place we first started on we didn’t hit. Artesian well makes a flooded mess in some red clay and rose hedge. Sent a few, king struck. It’s tough seeing a hog in that stuff. Sent spoon as he was on the box catching his breath. Then dogs played tennis across fm 2434 with a hog(s) for 30 minutes before I had to stop traffic because spoon was about to get hit. Rest of them dogs come back into our side. Roll a big left hand, go 500 yards farther west and kick across 2434 again. Just like anne and Misty did last time and they had the group bayed at the end. They go to same place same spot and tree. We hit the county road and go to ask permission to go to them. We get it and they appear to get beat to the same netwire we were just in by the time we get around to them, and pilgrim who we left trailing behind Tim’s pens has been picked up and hauled to some out of towners family Easter.

Cut our losses after that and called it a day after we retrieved pilgrim. Summer is all but here And it is dang dry already.


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[WayOutWest]

Rough go, my dad and his brother run greyhounds on Fox in the 50's and 60's. They would put up a low fence between the food and the doghouse to make them jump. They kept increasing the fence height till they jumped pretty naturally. I remember the kennels being really high. Lol

[t-dog]

Slim I can guarantee she tried to ham him. I don’t mind that at all because she immediately moves to the head when they stop. She doesn’t pinch and she won’t release until it squats or tries to face up. It’s good watching. You need to talk to that land owner about moving that fence.

You said a mouthful when you said it’s dry. I’m already real worried about this summer. We’ve had very little rain and even less run off. A lot of stock tanks are low and even dry already. It sounds like the dogs were hustling, win lose or draw. Myself I can live with that. Those young dogs will get better being put in harder situations. The cream will start rising to the top in those situations and you’ll find out who you should build around. Y’all have done good by the hem in hogs real regular so that they are confident and hitting the ground with pork on their mind. Just be patient and remember they are young.


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[Slim9797]

Yeah this summer doesn’t appear to be shaping up to be a “good” one as far as conditions go.
The dogs are young, they are trying and doing well. I don’t hate em for looking lackluster this past weekend. We’re about do for a sorry spell from a few of them for a couple months. Jamie and my uncle used to talk about that. Somewhere around 2 just about any good dogs gonna go through a sorry phase where they just look bad, or like they forgot everything they’ve ever done.

In other news I’m now waiting on Misty to come in. On a wild hair I got reminded today about a male that’s still alive out of the very first sketch cross. He was one I raised and had going on hogs that my uncle sold out from under me when we parted ways. I know where he is and the man said he will let me bring a gyp to him whenever I’m ready. He is a pretty savvy cow dog these days and will trash on hogs. Man likes him well enough he just crossed him to a gyp he has. He and 1 sister(if she’s still alive. Idk where she is)  are the only proven working animals alive that go directly back to the original leopard dogs I bred in to. Their daddy was one of the last of the Mohicans. Stoked about that.


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[t-dog]

Good luck with that. I hope it works for you.


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[The Old Man]

 It's always good to be able to dip back into the start of a good strain, hope it works out and you get a good litter.

[Slim9797]

This is potential stud in question. He was radar to me. Here he was at about 8 months old on my yard. He was going a little bit on hogs pretty good by this time. We had kept four. 3 males and a gyp. 2 males were dead by a year or so. His sister at a year was easily the most natural of any pups I’ve raised, hunting wench and I could make her trail or bay anything. caught a nasty coyote with her and found her dead in her pen a week later.

Here is my spoon dog at around same age. Just under a year. He’s coming on 2 in May I believe and is number one around here right now.
His sister may have something to say about that but I don’t use her as much because I want to breed her again. The litter out of her from last year is already hog hunting and they’re not a year till June.


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[t-dog]

Was this male dog out of Jamie’s dog? I like the leg under him and that deep chest. He almost looks a little cow hocked but it could be an awkward position he was caught in. My biggest breeding philosophy is “breed to a litter, not an individual”. I’m other words no matter how good a dog is, if a high percentage of his litter mates didn’t finish out at a high caliber then you are likely making the breeding for nothing. My second rule is that if I don’t like that dogs parents and parents of the other dog being bred to it then I don’t do it. The pups are usually gonna have a strong resemblance to the most prepotent one of those four or the most prepotent line of those four if it’s an outcross. If it’s a line breeding of a tighter bred family then you should have a pretty good idea about what you’re going to get. Of course these are just my opinions and what I have experienced.I hope it works out for you.


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[Slim9797]

Was this male dog out of Jamie’s dog? I like the leg under him and that deep chest. He almost looks a little cow hocked but it could be an awkward position he was caught in. My biggest breeding philosophy is “breed to a litter, not an individual”. I’m other words no matter how good a dog is, if a high percentage of his litter mates didn’t finish out at a high caliber then you are likely making the breeding for nothing. My second rule is that if I don’t like that dogs parents and parents of the other dog being bred to it then I don’t do it. The pups are usually gonna have a strong resemblance to the most prepotent one of those four or the most prepotent line of those four if it’s an outcross. If it’s a line breeding of a tighter bred family then you should have a pretty good idea about what you’re going to get. Of course these are just my opinions and what I have experienced.I hope it works out for you.


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T-dog if you know who Brian Adams is, from Lee County. That’s who got him from my uncle.

He’s not out of Jamie’s dogs but a close relative. My ex/ uncle Cullen that i worked for at the time, his lead cow dog was a big dark brindle dog named Levi. Them dogs come out of Jamie and Timmy Exners dogs. This is all documented on this forum in one of my threads. This thread starts on the litter of this dogs brother bred back to sketch.

Also, I asked you about the Reats and if they had a gyp named Tiggy that’s somewhere up there running hogs after the Iselts got her from me and had her for years. That’s this dogs full sister from that original litter. Finding out about her on hogs will tell you the tape on that litter. There was 3 more in East Texas that slowly got killed off the guy loved on hogs, in fact he finally got another from me out of the other litter I had next to the sketch/ray litter and she just got killed on hwy running a hog.

He wasn’t/isnt cow hocked, rhett ended up with a sister that was though. She got culled promptly.

Litter was a success as far as the type of dog. Most of them just didn’t make it to a year and a half. It might be more of a sentimental breeding, but he is the last of those alive besides tiggy, and the inbred so out of this dogs brother named tracker that my buddy Nathan has.


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[Cajun]

That is a sharp looking dog with a hell of a nice paint job.

[Slim9797]

Pretty neat picture from the young man who has sketch and her double bred grandson goose at 10 months old. He is running and baying hogs and can get behind one pretty decent for a 10 month old. I got a video of his crossing behind a hog this weekend, way ahead of grandma lol.


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