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Dang I hate to hear that for y’all. I know what she means to you. Unfortunately this is a time that we all have to face in life, not just hunting. We have to be thankful for the time we had with them. Those darn Chagas bugs have been around a little longer than I realized. The worst part is that there isn’t a cure or real vaccine the way I understand it. There’s a new experimental vaccine or treatment that’s about $200 a dog I think, but again it isn’t proven yet. I think it’s Bob Glass over around Lexington that is leading the way in the research on Chagas. He does testing and all on dogs.
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Man, I am sorry to hear that. Hoping for a good result however narrow the chances are.
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Thanks guys. She is my best friend, and has been since the day I turned 19. Gonna make the most of whatever time we have left with her. Hopefully we have more than I’m letting myself believe for now. 6 days, 6 weeks, or 6 more months. Whenever she goes, we’re gonna be short a good hog dog. And a great dog around here. She will leave behind a legitimate legacy of producing working dogs that worked, That will be around a lot longer than her.   Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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The Old Man
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Sure hate to hear about Ol'Sketch being seriously ill, on the upside if she doesn't make it through she is leaving quite a legacy. Started you a good solid line of dogs that should last you decades.
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I’m with everyone else on here, hate that you have to go thru that with sketch. I’ve enjoyed reading about your adventures with her.
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Sure hate to hear Ol'Sketch has a serious illness, on the upside even if she doesn't make it through it she's leaving quite a legacy. She has spawned you a good strain of dogs that should last you for decades. Not all dogs that make good ones, are able to reproduce. Seems to me she has excelled on the ground and in the brood pen.
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Sorry for the double post, didn't realize the first one went through.
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I’m with everyone else on here, hate that you have to go thru that with sketch. I’ve enjoyed reading about your adventures with her.
Been an adventure for sure. Thank you sir. And old man, I appreciate the kind words. She has excelled or I’ve lied that she has, at anything I’ve asked of her. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Slim nobody knows if you lied or not except you and her so just go with it. Seems to be that once they pass they get even better. I believe that’s why they say there’s no such thing as a finished dog lol.
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Hate to hear that sounds like yall got plenty out of her to keep it going though
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It’s always tough pill with the good ones.
I’ve enjoyed following y’all’s adventures thru the years slim. She sure made you proud and I’m sure a better man. A good dog has a knack of doing that to folks.
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It’s always tough pill with the good ones.
I’ve enjoyed following y’all’s adventures thru the years slim. She sure made you proud and I’m sure a better man. A good dog has a knack of doing that to folks.
She’s been there from my 19th birthday to now looking at 29 this year. Shes been one of the 3 constants in my life in that time. I’m a better human because of her I hope. She has taught me a lot. Hounds, hunting, and otherwise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Chagas positive. Got the test back this evening. Heart is in better shape than it could be based off tests we did. Meet with vet Monday to discuss options.
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Well I hope you get favorable news bud. From what I understand it’s the scarring on the heart that causes the issues when a dog has a reaction to being infected. The way I understand it, not all dogs that are infected show any symptoms. So you could have an infected dog and not know it until the scarring begins to create problems and then again a dog may never have any complications. Mr glass can test your dogs and most likely give the best recommendations as to what shud be done. The way I see it, there’s not much use in testing if there isn’t an effective vaccine. I could be off on this so don’t quote me. I’d definitely call him if I were you to see what he recommends for the rest of your pack.
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Semmes
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Them kissing bugs are getting bad around here too (south Louisiana)
Bout three years ago I found one in my bedroom when I was bout to get in bed. It was peaking out of a crack waitn for me to turn out the lights. I killed it and that put them on my radar and freaked me out!
I have found two more in the house since then and a couple on the porch.
Me and my son had one the dogs on porch last summer midday. We had been letting him run that morning while doing stuff around the yard and then let him on porch and he was layed out tired my and chap was sitn in chairs he was between us sleeping and I seen a big giant one crawling away from him slowly and walking funny. I jumped up and stomped on it and it popped like a full tick. It was slap full of fresh blood.
I couldn’t believe how much blood that thing had in it.
This is midday mind you. They say they are mostly nocturnal…
We been seeing a lot at the prison I work at as well…
Bout 3 o’clock pm one day last fall one my trustees come back on the tractor. And got off and we were talking. I seen a big colorful one on his shoulder and took a swipe at it but it was moving fast and I missed so we were dancing a find tryn find it on him then he seen it had jumped on me and he knocked it off anf and stomped it. I had been telling them to be in lookout. For em cuase them are dangerous and invading from Mexico.
All other trustees that work for me came out and I was showing them what they look like. Since then we have found quite a few creeping around the drop where I work.
They found a few in the dorms as well.
These things freak me out!
Our local news did a thing on them last year saying how prevalent they are becoming.
I watched a thing on YouTube said they are the most dangerous bug in North America.
The parasite then can carry, t-cruisi, kills the the second most people worldwide harbored by bugs,only second to mosquitoes.
You don’t know you have it til it really messes you up. Hell I’m thinking me and all my dogs have lol
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The Old Man
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In hindsight I think I lost a Plott female to chagas before I'd ever heard of it. About 3 yrs. ago in the Texas Hill country we bayed a good Boar hog, not a monster but a good hog in an almost impenetrable white brush thicket. My gyp got hit at the back of the ribs barely visible injury but was sored up a few days and went right on. Some time passed and she seemed to gradually lose all stamina, just couldn't hang anymore, was not old either. I laid it off to the injury received from that hog. I had her staked right under a pole light while there, supposedly the light attracts them, and the timeline somewhat fits.
That pole light was on the edge of a juniper thicket that the Mouflon sheep regularly bedded in to avoid coyotes when they had lambs so there was the draw of the lights and a steady meal available
The dog that was sick not long ago is sick again after seemingly a full recovery, I haven't seen any of the kissing bugs, here but on the "chagas map" Oklahoma is listed. I don't know if he could have had it all this time "since the Hill Country trip" and just now shown up with symptoms. With there not being a good cure, and no vaccine I don't plan to have him tested.
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I’ve not heard of them being so hard on dogs by biting. About everything I’ve heard says that the main way they get infected by the Chagas is by the bug deficating in their water. I was told by what a I consider a reliable source that many of the south Texas cat hunters have gone to the automatic dog licks for their watering system to remedy the defication issue. I’m not saying they can’t be bitten just that the most common infection source is the water defication. Now y’all have me curious. I think I’ll give Mr Glass a call tomorrow.
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Semmes
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Nah, they dedicate while they feed on a blood meal and if the poop consequently smeared into the wound the t-cruisi parasite enters the bloodstream. That is the vector by which a mammal contracts chagas.
That’s why they are called kissing bugs. The like ti bite where the skin is thin and vessels are closer to the surface. Around the lips or eyes while the victim sleeps
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Yes, a mammal can contract Chagas disease from kissing bugs (triatomine bugs) by consuming water or food contaminated with the insect's feces, which contain the Trypanosoma cruzi parasite. While the most common route is the feces entering a bite wound or mucous membrane, ingestion of infected feces or the bug itself is a recognized, albeit less common, transmission route.
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Semmes that’s what I’ve learned so far. The bugs bite but that isn’t how you are infected. The bug has a parasite that enters the body through wounds or mucus membranes, etc when the bug defecates on the person/animal while biting them or by defecating in their water. They say people can be treated so I’m not sure why a dog couldn’t be. Still have some digging to do. They also say it can remain unnoticed or undetected for years making it hard to narrow down when they were actually infected. I can’t believe that ivermectin wouldn’t have an affect on the parasite and the bug itself.
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