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« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2021, 11:54:02 am » |
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Years ago I had a pup like that and my wife took the pup to the vet and he gave her a tube of paste that was dense with nutrients and it helped in saving the pup…with my finger I just dabbed a little bit in the pups mouth per instructions…
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« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2021, 03:00:48 pm » |
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Reuben, do you know what the paste was? His last time pooping he still had diarrhea but no visible blood. That did happen previously and then the blood returned, I’m hoping that if the bleeding will stop he will be okay. He is getting down a few ml’s of milk every 2 hours. Not nearly what he’s supposed to be eating but I’m hoping it’s at least enough to sustain life. The food and blood are my main concerns. I have plenty of 5% dex solution to keep him hydrated as long as he will continue to nurse and not bleed out
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« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2021, 03:40:59 pm » |
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You might call your vet and see if they will just sell it to you.
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« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2021, 06:05:47 pm » |
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Reuben, do you know what the paste was? His last time pooping he still had diarrhea but no visible blood. That did happen previously and then the blood returned, I’m hoping that if the bleeding will stop he will be okay. He is getting down a few ml’s of milk every 2 hours. Not nearly what he’s supposed to be eating but I’m hoping it’s at least enough to sustain life. The food and blood are my main concerns. I have plenty of 5% dex solution to keep him hydrated as long as he will continue to nurse and not bleed out
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Its called Nutri-Cal comes in gel now as well as paste, alot of companies make a brand, no vet needed. just google "Nutri-Cal paste" and a dozen types will pop up |
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« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2021, 06:07:32 pm » |
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I don’t remember the name but like WOW said…call the vet and see what he recommends…
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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2021, 08:10:53 am » |
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Since you need it ASAP Vet may be best route, but you dont need vet to purchase.
Walmart online even stocks a brand "Tomlyn Nutri-Stat"
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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2021, 03:18:41 pm » |
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I found it in 3 stores locally. Petco and Petsense near me.
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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2021, 05:02:56 pm » |
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Hey guys, I appreciate the tips. I looked online and tractor supply didn’t have it, I made an emergency run to the grocery store last night and got some canned pumpkin since that is supposed to help their digestion and have a lot of nutrients. As of today he has made a good turn around, I’m hoping he keeps up the progress this time. No more blood in the poop as of last night and he is having loose stools but no actual diarrhea. Got him eating good and still giving him some periodic subcutaneous fluids to make sure he doesn’t get dehydrated again. I started giving the other 3 pups a few CC’s of fluid each day as well to hopefully keep them hydrated and not have any other scared. I will order some of the nutri-cal to keep on hand as well for any future situations, I saw they sell it on the dog website chewwy
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« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2021, 12:56:56 pm » |
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Had more females go down hill last night. Vet diagnosed coccidia so at least there’s some answers and hopefully they’ll be okay with the meds. One of my black females is pretty rough as of last night. This is a new vet that’s a few miles from the house and just a little country vet compared to my older vet that has become more of a commercial setup. This vet wants to make some hunts so hopefully I’ll get a good connection out of all the headaches! Lol
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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2021, 01:44:41 pm » |
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Sounds like a good vet. Many of them now don’t care for our particular discipline. I have also seen many vets miss the coccidia diagnosis. Many of them will call it parvo and then the dog is lost because it didn’t receive the right medication. So, if nothing else it sounds like you found one with a brain.
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« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2021, 04:07:56 pm » |
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This guy is the secondary vet I believe, just him and the main vet that owns the clinic. I saw him when I went the first time to get the mom looked at and confirmed with the mastitis. Apparently he used to be in Georgia and he worked on a hog hunters Catahoula dogs almost every Saturday and has a liking for hog dogs. Can’t beat that, the emergency vet around here tried to accuse me of abusing my Hopper dog when I took him there after he got in front of the truck and got ran over. Like sure, I’m gonna dislocate my dogs hips on purpose just to bring him here at midnight and pay 10x what a regular vet costs to fix him. I mean come on, who does that lol.
But my male pup had the highest count at 60 for the coccidia, they were actually surprised after seeing his current condition. I guess all the fluid and the canned pumpkin was enough to at least sustain him since he first went downhill. I’m hoping that if I can just kept them warm, fed, and hydrated, the meds will do the rest. I’ve never had anything except for one flea outbreak on my yard so I was surprised, come to find out the fella that had the male dog had a coccidia incident earlier this year, so I’m presuming it was picked up by the mom there. Once these pups are on the up and up I will be trying to decontaminate and sterilize everything in and out of the house. Even though they’re just 18 days old, the vet had me start weaning them today to get some better nutrients in them. Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that this is the last of the issues and that it will get easier from here on out…
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« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2021, 06:44:12 pm » |
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Just want to send a God bless you your way brother, I've been right where your at before and it's completely nerve racking in all aspects,don't get discouraged and give in when all seems lost, one day your going to look across your yard and your mind will bring you back to these times and a sense of pride and accomplishment will come with that quick glance at what you've created, and the work that YOU put in doing it,at least your on top of things, crush up some fresh garlic cloves and oregano and soak them in a jar of water, mix some of that water solution in your milk at every feeding, look up ropa poultry supply, they sale a product that is a chicken supplement, it's mainly oregano oil concentrate, where this is used coccidiosis doesn't exits any longer and a good portion of the poultry industry is going away from conventional medicine altogether to this and other oregano oil based products , this stuff is the truth, however the garlic and oregano is easily and readily available at your local grocery store, I'd start that ASAP, it'd boost the effectiveness of the meds and is an immune system booster, and garlic has a sulfa based compound in it, by the way if you've found a reasonable dog friendly vet, if he eats pork, a few packs of sausage or some fresh, clean cut and ready to cook back strap or smoker ready hog, goes ALONG ways, in addition to a hunt invite, research the benefits and uses of the oregano oil, it's some amazing and very useful information that can be bridged and used in the dog world....
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« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2021, 06:58:07 pm » |
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Good words of encouragement to someone trying to do the right thing Goose!
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« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2021, 09:51:19 am » |
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Thanks for the kind words Goose! I sure hope they end up healthy and prove to be good dogs. I guess time will tell now!
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« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2021, 01:53:14 am » |
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Me and some old bulldog buddys just went back threw twenty something years of breeding dogs just to look and what was what and who was what and what made what. All those years of worrying about do I need to tighten this, do I need to tighten that . Man we where writing pedigrees for years and years. You know what my advise to you is ? To quit worrying about what you need to tighten up and breed your best dogs to your best dogs. In the end the pedigrees will work themselves out and you will have bred your best dogs to your best dogs . I would be willing to bet when your all said and done. You will have bred way better dogs doing it this way than you ever will trying to put this dog in there two times three time are this and that .
After all of our worry threw all of them years when we look back. It was always the loose to real loose line breedings with small great out crosses bred in there that made our greatest dogs . Believe me they were great great dogs. A man can get himself locked into a large amount of Bullnumber 2 trying to breed tightly bred dogs . Let your dogs decide what the pedigree should be not you and you will have great dogs for years and years . Its the human element that weakens the dogs.
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« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2021, 09:22:53 am » |
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TexasHogDogs,
Thank you for the advice, it’s a great opportunity for us younger guys to be able to pick the brains of those of you that have been there and done that. Unfortunately one of my two black females is disabled, vet thinks a brain lesion, definitely a neurological problem. That leaves one male and two females that are still alive and well and have big shoes to fill. They will have plenty of opportunity to make the cut, so time will tell.
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« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2022, 02:56:57 pm » |
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Nice looking pups, hope they work for you!
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« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2022, 04:44:06 pm » |
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Thank you WOW, time will tell… they’ll have plenty of opportunity so it will be on them to do the rest
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« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2022, 10:10:26 pm » |
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Man they’re growing fast. I sure hope they work out for ya. You’ve sure done your part to get them this far.
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