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Author Topic: Must be the Water…Almost lost Turbo  (Read 1382 times)
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« on: May 05, 2022, 09:59:54 pm »

Not even three weeks since I lost Diesel I almost lost his brother Turbo…Sunday morning we had a good hunt…caught two big boars and one big Sow…not one dog with any cuts to speak of…Turbo had a small nick on the side of his rib cage. When I got home I cleaned it right away and sprayed it with cut heal…he appeared to be in a lot of pain, the same symptoms as Diesel which is very unusual from what I have ever seen when treating injuries…even major injuries seemed minor compared to how these two dogs got knocked down…I had a pretty powerful injectable antibiotic but by Tuesday evening I had to lance the swelling and drain the fluid…drained it at least 4 or 5 times before I could get Turbo to a vet…Wednesday morning it looked like he wouldn’t make it…the vet I normally use could not see him until the following Friday…I didn’t have that time and luckily I had a walk in available at 9am at another clinic…the vet was a young lady who had gone  to school locally…right off the back she said we need to flush the area with a saline solution until it flushes clear…took at least 20 or 30 minutes to clear up…I told her I suspected dirty stagnant water caused the severe infections in both dogs…I asked for a swab test to see if the bacterial infection can be identified…all the blood work came back normal…anything that was out of normal range was explainable and tied to the infection…
She shipped out the swab to the lab and will let me know as soon as she gets the results…this vet was cool, calm and friendly…she did a thorough check on Turbo…she said we are prescribing two heavy hitters for a one two punch…she was confident and that made me feel better…Turbo is getting better quickly…my hope is to breed him to two very nice Mt Curs I own now…I haven’t been this excited about any other potential breedings since my original line of Mt curs I owned in years past…

Im thinking I now have a new vet…and she is local and they are available 24 hrs a day…2 office buildings and 7 vets to cover 24 hrs a day, it is doable…
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2022, 06:49:51 am »

I sure hope he heals up for you .. hard to take that kind of hit in one yr and recuperate..  What kind of 2 part infection meds was used by her if you dont mind me asking?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2022, 07:10:06 am »

Dang Reuben that’s a tough go. At least he’s on the mend now and you can take a deep breath. You might want to hunt that dude in a bubble until you get him bred lol. I presume the Mtn Curr females are both hog dogs?


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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2022, 08:04:43 am »

Thank y’all…
Yes, the two females are hog dogs…what really has me feeling great about these two sisters (different litters) is that the breeding behind them is really good hunting dogs…
I haven’t looked into the meds just yet but I will on account I would like to know so maybe I can order me some and keep it close for emergency needs…
One little pill and a larger pill each twice a day…I’ll let you know when I find out…

Whatever the infection is…rapidly takes a dog down…both Diesel and Turbo were baying and fighting big boars in canals that tie in together and both have the same type of muddy stinky bottoms that when stirred up give off a pretty nasty smell…

The normal routine I follow in doctoring my dogs does not work on this type of infection…
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2022, 09:01:57 am »

This kind of reminds me of a hunt me and my son did down in South La. one time..   we were hunting a island of pretty good size,, we had to take a barge to it but were able to bring our bikes across to hunt off of..  The dogs struck a big barr hog and bayed him in a ditch that flowed out to the ship channel..  Yeah,, it wasnt a good place to be and we was ready to get out as quick as we dove in.. But the next day me and my son had both bad urinary infections and my lord it dealt us some misery in the next week..  aint no tellin what was in that water.. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2022, 07:30:42 pm »

T-dog…I was using Draxxin injectable but it was not working…

The vet prescribed an anti-inflammatory-pain relief medication…also prescribed Clavamox, 1 tablet at 62.5 mg and the other of the same but 375mg…one each twice a day…I saw a difference within a few hours…flushing out the infection was a big help…

I had lanced the infected area and drained it often…the dog tried his best to lick it up…I actually let him lick it up the first time thinking he needed something from the drainage…then I thought not a good idea for several reasons…I asked the vet if she knew why he was persistent in trying to lick the slab clean…without hesitation she said in the wild and in the animal world they exhibit this type of behavior…the dog does not want to show that he is sick or vulnerable to other dogs and animals so they get rid of the evidence…sounds logical to me…
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2022, 07:19:34 am »

Sounds like she might be a pretty decent vet. I hope for your sake because good vets are dinosaurs these days.


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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2022, 07:29:42 am »

Glad to hear he’s on the right track. Been a rough go. Good news on the new vet too.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2022, 08:06:41 am »

Thanks…I have hopes this vet is the one on account I liked her mannerisms and the clinic is about 3 miles from my house, their other clinic is about 20 miles away…Turbo has a follow up appointment so I will talk to her about probable situations and probable solutions…business could possibly pick up on account other hog doggers would be bringing their business…

After the vet I used for many years retired I found a vet 45 miles away and he is about retired too and their new staff are really busy and stay booked up…usually take a few days after making the appointment…
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2022, 08:16:21 am »

She tried to give me a red colored Pitbull cross because someone couldn’t keep him anymore so they are feeding and taking care of it…neutered and free to good home that could use him…probably a 55 pound dog…I told her I would look around and see if someone could use another hogdog…

If anyone is interested respond here and I will furnish contact information…thanks
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2022, 09:06:06 pm »

Got the test results from the vet today…

One of the bacterial infections was streptococcus which she said was common…
The other bacterial infection was Fusobacterium…she said it is not common in a wound…this infection got  worse pretty quick and it appears to be very painful to the dog…seems within 24 hours the dog will quit eating and will not want to get up due to the pain and also not feeling well..

I am pretty confident Diesel died from the same infection…
I have doctored many dogs over the years and when I treated Diesel nothing worked, when I decided to take him to the Vet it was too late…so when Turbo got the same symptoms I took quick action, otherwise Turbo would not of made it…by time I got him to the Vet he was in bad shape…

Just passing on information that could possibly help in treating your dog when nothing else is working…
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2022, 09:08:22 pm »

WHAT IS THE FUSOBACTERIUM TREATED WITH??
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2022, 04:22:31 am »

Clavamox…the Vet said that med would work and it has worked…amoxicillin, Draxxin and penicillin wasn’t working…
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2022, 01:47:55 pm »

I’m assuming that the clavamox is a gram positive and gram negative antibiotic like baytril?


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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2022, 05:41:12 pm »

Your assumption is right T-dog…

I need to find an injectable that will work on account the dogs quit eating by the second day of infection…
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2022, 06:14:32 pm »

From what I read Rueben, that is not an unusual side effect.  It upsets the stomach pretty good.
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2022, 07:36:52 pm »

WOW…normally I give Amoxicillin or Cephalexin in capsules so I can mix it with dog food or hamburger meat on account the dogs getting treated normally keep a good appetite…with this bacterial infection they go down so quick that they won’t eat anything and get to the point they cut way back on drinking water…I don’t like forcing pills down their throat so I am hoping to find an injectable antibiotic that works on this bacteria…one that will heal my dog quickly and keep me out of the Vet hospital…
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2022, 09:56:24 pm »

I’d ask her if the baytril would work Reuben. You can buy it in the injectable form.


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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2022, 09:18:28 am »

I appreciate that T-dog…I will see about ordering a bottle…
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2022, 12:26:48 pm »

I have had some dogs I had to medicate over the years and have been able to slip the pill back far enough and then close the mouth and lift the muzzle and it goes down pretty well. I have had to put ringers in subcutaneously a few times when they wouldn't drink. You do what you gotta do.
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