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t-dog
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2022, 12:11:24 pm »

My woman has a husky/malamute cross that is about as smart as dog can be….about most things. She is an inside dog mostly and been pampered and spoiled all her life, she’s 5-6 years old. I had NO part in raising her. She was grown when we got together. Now if she doesn’t want to do something she won’t. She will literally lay there and decide if she wants to, or if she’s going to, or if it’s to hell with whatever you say. That doesn’t fly with me. I tell my kids and MY dogs once, second time there is action. So twice now I’ve told her to do something and she didn’t, totally shot me the sign sometimes confused for being #1. So I reach down and get her by the collar and she reaches around the first time and bites me. She understood pretty quick that that was a bad decision. She was fine after that for about 6-8 months. Then she did it again. This time when I got her by the collar she bit me about 5 times. It looked and sounded like bar room brawl after that. She now believes in the devil. When I say to do something now there is no contemplating. She gets up and goes right now. Everyone involved has been put on notice, she’s got two strikes and third strike will be the ball game! She’s also one that will growl and most likely bite if you get near her food when she’s eating.


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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2022, 12:37:49 pm »

The bottom line…

Example using a feeding scenario because it is simple and easy to correct and it applies to the majority of discipline issues that come up…

We feed the pup and it growls and hackles up…give it a good tap on the head always keeping your cool…the pup will know if your doing it with anger…

Keep messing with the food bowl,and the pup growls again… give a harder tap on the head…keep working with the feed bowl or something close to the food bowl and repeat the process until the pup wags its tail…only at that time you pet the pup…repeat daily until he totally gets the hang of it…

The idea is for the pup to get the message…and not only to get the message but for the pup to remain confident and trusting around you…when you can do that you will have a better relationship with the pup and eventually, the dog that it will become…

Another thing…no self respecting dog will take excessive discipline…choose how you discipline wisely…usually, you can discipline most any dog you own as long as it has a way to retreat…

In my yard I have done lots of correcting…I have learned that when correcting they will circle back to me and lick my hand, I call it asking for forgiveness…at least that is how I see it and it also builds trust when I accept their apology…

Reuben that is all fine and dandy but that ship has already sailed for taps to correct aggression issues now. This is a grown dog baring teeth over things he doesn't like. And every time another issue happens and he gets away with it, it just reinforces it more in the dog. At this point there are only three ways to deal with it, and only the last two would be viable to me. One is he could just ignore it and or do his best to not get in those situations with the dog and hope none of his loved ones do either. Two cull the dog. Or three do the work to break the behavior. Watch how a professional trainer breaks this behavior in a grown dog, it takes work, commitment, and consistency and depending on how bad it actually is at this point it might be more than most regular dogs owners are willing to do or can do.

Also if I raised them then I can discipline them whether they have a way to retreat or not and if I couldn't they wouldn't be here long. I agree there are always limits but if you are a good handler then you shouldn't need to make many "hard" corrections and even those should be done intelligently and within reason. Association is everything when it comes to dog training, so it's always good to keep that in mind with all of your interactions with your dogs. This is all just my opinion so take it for what its worth.

Rednose…I totally agree with you…

I have been dealing with dogs many years and most of my corrections have been in the back yard…which includes breaking them off deer…breaking dogs is very easy and simple for me including getting the best out of them simply by doing the right things at the right time…doing the right things at the right time is key…I will venture to say that the inexperienced won’t even know training or corrections are taking place when my dogs are running free in the back yard or even when hunting…
What I was actually saying in my last post had mostly to do with building the right foundation with a pup so that the progression towards mature does have to end with issues like desertdog is having with his dog…

T-dog…my bet is that the dog you are dealing with will strike-out…but hoping for the best…
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2022, 12:55:27 pm »

Lol I hoping your wrong and betting your right!


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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2022, 11:41:53 pm »

I had a little bulldog pup recently who was a little hot from the beginning.  Got him at 5 weeks old,raised him in the house around the kids. About 7 months old he got  growly over the food bowel,then it was going in the crate or outside...he didn't want to go. He walked in the house behind my lady and she told him out. He stared at her and wouldn't budge,she yelled at him and he  made the move out not before showing her some tee. 1. Night dogs struck 1 and  I went to unsnap him he tried to eat my azzz. He was lifeless coming of the box....moral of the story....to many chances and somebody gonna get hurt
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2022, 09:45:37 pm »


Years ago a friend of mine had an awesome black brindle female…she was as good as they come as a catch dog…one of her sons was a black brindle as well, my favorite color…
We took him on a hunt one night and he was acting up terribly and I could see it was all a handling issue…I glared at that dog and thought…if you were my dog I’d beat your a$$ and straighten you out…we made eye contact and that was it, the rest of the hunt if could of got loose he would of had to die because he would have attacked me… learned something that night…lol
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2022, 11:11:38 pm »

Rueben,exactly this dog was smart. Like tdog  said ,we also went a couple rounds. This dog from a pup was hot.Og and chinamen?? If I remember. This sob could turn inside his own skin. Funny thing is he never showed any interest in other dogs,just people
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2022, 08:16:18 am »

The Eli/Chinaman dogs used to throw occasional maneaters...
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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2022, 12:49:46 am »

Maybe there is a deeper issue, does it seem like it causes him pain when you mess with them? Is it only when there’s something causing him pain or when he’s fine too? That’d be a tough one to work around but I’ve had a couple that would get aggressive when it came to stapling them or when they were hurt.


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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2022, 12:54:38 am »

Sorry I guess the post updated right after I replied. But that dog sounds pretty wild if he’s doing all that especially if you’ve raised him from 7 weeks.


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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2022, 07:45:56 am »

Maybe there is a deeper issue, does it seem like it causes him pain when you mess with them? Is it only when there’s something causing him pain or when he’s fine too? That’d be a tough one to work around but I’ve had a couple that would get aggressive when it came to stapling them or when they were hurt.


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No. he's just never liked anyone messing with his feet or ears, it took a couple years but he's good about his feet but if I'm trying to  doctor his ears or face area he rapidly builds anxiety and it becomes snapping and trying to escape if I continue....He's weird in other ways also...
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