The rebound

[chestonmcdowell]

Cajun how many dogs have you successfully started at once

[Cajun]

  I might start 4-5 every year. I am very fortunate to live in a place where my pups can run loose. By the time they are 4-5 months old I have to pen them up because they have gone from squirrels to rabbits and then deer. After that I will run them in my 25 acre pen and it is thick in there. By the time they are 9 months or so they are ready for the woods and you can dump them in fresh sign and they will do there best to trail it up.

[TheRednose]

I know people that have had great success with the BMC/Running Dog crosses, you may hit a homerun.

The real ticket is finding the running hound that will bay good. A lot of running hounds just want to run something, and when it stops they get bored. Some bay just as good as a cur dog but it’s harder to find. I like mine. More cast and bottom then most men want or need, and have the speed to back it up. They don’t have the true cold nose, but you don’t need a cold nose when you have that kinda hunt. I reined my male dog back so I could track hunt him and he’s took to it well!

True about the baying part, some will and some will not. All of mine will bay and stretch a cat but not sure on hogs because that is not what I run nor what they were bred for. I think crossing them on something with a lot of stock sense may help that.

The cold nose thing is a myth, there are plenty of Running Dogs with cold noses, but if you are getting them from fox pens or deer hunters the chances of getting one with a cold nose are low, because that is not what a lot of them are breeding for. It comes down to what they are being bred for, game they are running, and how they are being hunted.

I also agree with you about what you said about hunt. This is my opinion to each their own, but hustle, range, and winding ability will catch more hogs in the south, than a super cold nosed track dog running 1 and 2 day old tracks. Just what I have seen.

[TheRednose]

  I might start 4-5 every year. I am very fortunate to live in a place where my pups can run loose. By the time they are 4-5 months old I have to pen them up because they have gone from squirrels to rabbits and then deer. After that I will run them in my 25 acre pen and it is thick in there. By the time they are 9 months or so they are ready for the woods and you can dump them in fresh sign and they will do there best to trail it up.

That is a great system Cajun!

Arkansas you are going to be a busy man with all of those pups. I can only start a max of two pups at a time with they way I do it hunting cats, any more than that and I feel like I am having to short cut things. Good luck with all of those pups and I think you have some great looking prospects there. Keep us updated on their progress and really interested in which ones you end up liking the most.

[BA-IV]

I shoulda clarified, most of the running dogs I’ve seen don’t have the inclination to grind a cold track out time after time. They’re bred to cast and run hard from the deer dog world to the fox pen world, and that’s what we have in Louisiana. I like mine to hunt what I put them on, whether it’s sign from a group or one big track, otherwise I can cast em and get em to hunt a block, but if you do that with young dogs, you’ll be running deer way before you ever run a hog simply because it’s a numbers game. Way more deer around us then hogs.

[Reuben]

They got some gold nugget in there I think. First dogs I have ever bought with papers. The momma was a pretty normal sized dog but the dad was on the smaller side. I got a registered plott with a lot of poacher blood in her the other day it came from one of the moseses breedings. Got her from a coon hunter but I think he was more of a coon dog collector. Going to have to put some more woods time into her she’s only a year old. She will bay but hopefully I can start getting her to cast farther


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I have an acquaintance that catches over 200 hogs a year and holds a 40 hr. a week job…he has a running walker x mtn cur that has been his main stop dog…not the best strike dog but is fast and can stop one pretty quick…the pups out of him are 3/4 kemmer and at 4 months old are out hunting with the big dogs…has a pure kemmer doing a good job at 7 months as well…

[Arkansashunter96]

Cajun I will eventually have a this back part of my property fenced in so I can do the same. Are you keeping them in that or is it like a training pen?


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[Arkansashunter96]

I know people that have had great success with the BMC/Running Dog crosses, you may hit a homerun.

The real ticket is finding the running hound that will bay good. A lot of running hounds just want to run something, and when it stops they get bored. Some bay just as good as a cur dog but it’s harder to find. I like mine. More cast and bottom then most men want or need, and have the speed to back it up. They don’t have the true cold nose, but you don’t need a cold nose when you have that kinda hunt. I reined my male dog back so I could track hunt him and he’s took to it well!

True about the baying part, some will and some will not. All of mine will bay and stretch a cat but not sure on hogs because that is not what I run nor what they were bred for. I think crossing them on something with a lot of stock sense may help that.

The cold nose thing is a myth, there are plenty of Running Dogs with cold noses, but if you are getting them from fox pens or deer hunters the chances of getting one with a cold nose are low, because that is not what a lot of them are breeding for. It comes down to what they are being bred for, game they are running, and how they are being hunted.

I also agree with you about what you said about hunt. This is my opinion to each their own, but hustle, range, and winding ability will catch more hogs in the south, than a super cold nosed track dog running 1 and 2 day old tracks. Just what I have seen.

Are you running bobcats or lions?


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[Arkansashunter96]

Ba iv that’s what I had a lot of trouble with this year was deer races I was practically casting them on deer. Even after burning them a bunch they seemed like they have to chase it 200 yards. With the boat hunting it seems like I’m able to cast where the hogs are. I came across this today when I took that young plott out. Poor thing crossed a part of the road with really steep banks got hit and flew probably 25-30 feet and smacked a tree. I had to put it down. I’m going to have to pen up these pups soon I wish I could let them run around a lot longer I believe that is the best way to raise some.


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[TheRednose]

I know people that have had great success with the BMC/Running Dog crosses, you may hit a homerun.

The real ticket is finding the running hound that will bay good. A lot of running hounds just want to run something, and when it stops they get bored. Some bay just as good as a cur dog but it’s harder to find. I like mine. More cast and bottom then most men want or need, and have the speed to back it up. They don’t have the true cold nose, but you don’t need a cold nose when you have that kinda hunt. I reined my male dog back so I could track hunt him and he’s took to it well!

True about the baying part, some will and some will not. All of mine will bay and stretch a cat but not sure on hogs because that is not what I run nor what they were bred for. I think crossing them on something with a lot of stock sense may help that.

The cold nose thing is a myth, there are plenty of Running Dogs with cold noses, but if you are getting them from fox pens or deer hunters the chances of getting one with a cold nose are low, because that is not what a lot of them are breeding for. It comes down to what they are being bred for, game they are running, and how they are being hunted.

I also agree with you about what you said about hunt. This is my opinion to each their own, but hustle, range, and winding ability will catch more hogs in the south, than a super cold nosed track dog running 1 and 2 day old tracks. Just what I have seen.

Are you running bobcats or lions?

I run both, some times thats all I do is run them lololol.

[Arkansashunter96]

Your telling me.


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[Arkansashunter96]

Are you up north or south red nose


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[TheRednose]

I hunt all over the South but live in TX.

[Cajun]

Cajun I will eventually have a this back part of my property fenced in so I can do the same. Are you keeping them in that or is it like a training pen?

I use it for a training pen. My pups run loose on the outside. That being said I have people that bring me young dogs to start and if they have never run loose, I will put them in the pen 1st thing in the morning and let them run loose all day and pick them up in the evening and do that for about a week. It is amazing how fast young dogs will learn to use their nose when turned loose. When I start turning young dogs in there to run, the pups that are brought in pack right into the race.
  People ask me why I do not run my old dogs in there and the reason is they learn to cheat and if they try to cheat in the woods, they can get thrown out of a race.


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