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ok guys i am a little more than embarrised to ask this question :-[ :-[ i need to know how to tie a hog apparently.. the dogs got one bayed up and it was small enough i figured i would try to tie him up and feed him out instead of the usual shot them and eat them. i got a hold of him and flipped him over and started tying.. my buddy came in to help and he didnt know much more than me. anyway after i took my foot off his neck he jumped up and ran off like he was never tied. i have gone with clint from this board and he had the hobbles that made it pretty easy but it would seem that a regular rope should work if i knew how to tie it.. it was a 80-90lb boar hind sight i should have shot him.. i would be cooking piggy instead of writing this rolleyes rolleyes :-X

In all seriousness, maybe if we ask nice the ladies from Hogs, Dogs,and Lace would do a little video of up close tying.  At the least they should be able to post step by step pics.  Just saying.

You tie this knot on three legs

http://www.iwillknot.com/cow_hitch/

On the fourth you tie the cow hitch then tie it off. The more they pull the tighter the knot gets. With a littler practice you can do it under a minute.

Practice on your buddies and see if they can get out  ;D

I tie half hitches and tie end off.  If you can find mule tape it sure works good.  Mule tape is used by electrical utility co to pull lines with.  Hope this helps.  I've had hogs come untied when I was younger it just takes practice.

i know of a couple ways i use mule tape but whatever way you find works best for you make sure you take a rope find a tree and tie them legs high until you drag him out sure is hard for a hog to run off when he is on his back with his feet stickin up

i gots lotts of muletape

thanks, i knew someone would bring up the hdl women on this one..... :-X rolleyes
i guess a stupid question is one that is not asked

 ;D Im all for it!
I use double half hitches also but I have noticed that Chance and his ladies use big rope for better blood circulation with the hogs feet. We need a demo ladies! ;)

MULE TAPE!

i use a double half hitch

Howzit guys! I'm not sure how many of you have seen our "packing" style here in Hawaii but majority of the places we hunt have no roads which means you throw the pig on your back and piggyback it to the truck!  :laugh: Most guys here go with the few hitches route but me being me and always looking to do things a little different have been using "Israeli Ropecuffs". It is a simple knot and you just tie off the 2 loose ends and throw the pig on your back. I am not sure how it would work on a live hog because you can get the ropes VERY tight and a live hog with no legs won't be worth much at the buying station (At least I wouldn't think so).

Here is a picture of my cousin packing a fatty sow  and then I will post a video of how to tie your own ropecuffs. Try it out on your friends or to detain an intruder while you coughtorturecough wait for the police to show up  :laugh:

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man i like the ropecuff deal i will give them a try




maybe on the wife ;D ;D oh i mean when she gets out of line of coarse popo

I have seen this packing style before but it was used on dead hogs. What keeps you from getting a wetter upside your head if a live boar starts to struggle? Or a tuck for that matter?

It is illegal to take any animal out alive here in Hawaii but the few times I've done it, we used a branch with the animal tied in the middle between 2 of us. I also have a big pack that I put shoats or baby goats and sheep in. You would be suprised even a dead boar will put a hurt on you! In the picture there is a mule tape tied on her jaw to control her head from swinging into your ear or to keep her head from lifting and coming down on the top of your head!

Warning: Packing an animal like this will turn your undies red!

I'm sorry I just seen this!!I think I can get the women to show you how!! ;)
They use a 3/8 rope so the hogs feet don't swell always worked for us!!

The girls call the knot there Rapa - Tapa - Hoiey  Knot!!  There is a story why the call it that !!

Me and my wife used to see who could tie one faster I can't say who won but she can flat tie one pretty darn fast!!

Rapa - Tapa - Hoiey  Knot here we come.

thats exactly what i do with a half hitch over the first and last knot/foot

I have used the cow hitch on people. It is funny how fast I can tie up someone before they know what happened. Rapa - Tapa - Hoiey  Knot? I want to see what that is!

A Alabama Hondo works real good too! rolleyes

I've been usin' bigger rope for the same reason... so I can leave 'em tied up a little longer without worryin' 'bout crippling them.. 3/8" is good, I use the "cow hitch", but the occasional hog still kicks out a leg every now and then... (and I've got those legs cinched together TIGHT)... I also have studied Cward's and, gone but not forgotten, Scott and Des' photos of tied hogs... they all use relatively large(3/8'ths looking) tie string...

.... but THIS is what still has me baffled... they don't cinch the legs tight together!  Some of the shots I've seen look like that hog could stand right up!  Fat string, and slack line are a recipe' for a hog kickin' loose to me... or maybe I just ain't figgured the technique out yet! (Most likely ;D)

Been experimenting with just tying a slip knot on a back leg, above the ankle but below the hock.... then just tying them to a tree till we're ready to go... haven't lost one yet!


When in doubt.... throw another tight half hitch on!!!  ;D

man i thought i would get murdered by you guys for asking this question but it looks like it is a little bit of a learned art. i tied one of my 40 pounders up yesterday with a rope with two ropecuffs tied on it and he was hobbled fo sho... i dont know how it will work on a bigger piggy guess i will see.

I usually take two pieces of mule tape and tie them pretty much like a hobble. Keeps their feet from swelling up and holds good. Plus it's real easy to get off.. Round rope will  hold as good or better..

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I can promise you that chair won't run away.  Heck, you could even leave it overnight .

That chair would die right there ..  :D

You need to give it some water until you decide what you are going to do with it.  I hate seeing chairs suffer.  The only thing worse would be to bring it to a NASCAR event. 

Na, I can't be taking my living room furniture off anywhere like that . I always drink too many cold ones and forget and leave it..

Touché

Good pics!

That's exactly how i've always tied my hogs... I just couldn't explain it without showing someone.

They ain't going nowhere tied like that. ;)

where do yall get mule tape? i asked the nerd at home depot he told me it was in the paint section and walked me over by the masking tape..,. lol

 it is for pulling wire aint it?

That is a bad ass idea. I suck at tying hogs, ill admit that. But with each leg in the end of a doubled up noose; who could mess that up?

So tell us the truth, how did you learn about these kind of knots? ;D  Ya,ya, I know, I just learned about it on youtube too.  :o

Monteria-  ;D My kids and nephew have become such well behaved children since I've learned this method!  :laugh: Nah seriously though I had a few ropes come loose and pigs hanging off my back so I figured there had to be a video of something that would work better and this is what I came across and they work great for me and I also have found if you leave the tail end long you can "wrap" around the knot which will make it even tighter before tying it off.

yeah dont ask for it in the stores..lol Find someone you kow who is a lineman for the electric company they have spools of it.  Otherwise you can find it on the net but its not cheap.  Or maybe a supply house but its easier to throw the electric guy getting a sandwich at 7-11 five bucks for a bunch..Most places will only use it once before chucking it too.. thats how i get mine.

The landscapers use the same stuff to tie young trees up so the wind does not know them over. If you look, it is used all over.

http://www.cajuntiedowns.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TT_3QRT

All it is just 3/4" or 1" flat polypropylene rope. You can use any type of strong rope, polyprop or nylon or whatever.

i tied a few of the ropecuff ropes and put them in the jeep I will cuff em and stuff em now!!! popo

Any word on this Rapa Tapa Hoiey knot?

Crystal is working on some tax stuff but I will get her to answer you hear after while!!

Well Noah if I laid all my secrets out there for everyone all at once, we would have nothing to talk about later!  ;) So far out of all my years of tying I can't recall a hog that walked off once I perfected the Rapa-Tapa-Hooey. But, I love where your head is at... when in doubt, throw another half hinch!  ;D

I want to know how to pronounce it and tie. Just so I could say I know how to tie a "Rapa-Tapa-Hooey"

Well it's pronouced just like it is spelt and hopefully I can stop the paper work long enough to get to the woods and catch one for you guys and at the very least get some progression still shots. Now I happen to be one of those show me gals so for all you boys and girls out there who are the same as me.... I will work on getting a video together that will lay it out in real time.  ;) I actually did a little segment for the Georgia shows on how to tie the rapa-tapa-hooey but I haven't seen the edited version yet so I don't know if they are going to use it or not. I'll keep ya'll posted on that one. But, I must say from reading the other post it seems there are some pretty good methods being thrown out there. I just might have to change my method up a little. ;)

tried the rope cuffs on a 125 lb hog lastnight,no good :-\....back to slipknot/hitches :)

Good to know! What went wrong, It didn't hold?

you have to keep the ends of each rope pulled tight at the same time as the hog struggles i couldnt get one tied before he had the other one off....some one else try it,if there is a way im interested

Good point!  ;D I've only used it on dead hogs and today my 2 dogs decided they were gonna spend the night in the forest and not come home but if I get a chance to give it try on a live hog I will let you know how it goes!

Did I miss the video of the Rapa-Tapa-Hooey?

I use 2 6 ft peices of 3/8 braided nylon rope  it works great    Gota really easy way to tie with it  if you want pm me I will give you my cell number I will send you pics of how to do it  I have tied pigs like this for 7 years and never lost one that I've tied   And it's really easy to undo 

When she comes down next week, I will make her show me.  I'll do my best to video it.   ;D

What? You don't know the Rapa-Tapa-Hooey? Everybody that is cool knows the Rapa-Tapa-Hooey. Even some not cool people like me know it! (Smack talk) Maybe one day you can join the Rapa-Tapa-Hooey club.

lol,,,, someone dug up a old post about the hooey.

Where is this video??


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You wrap a shirt around or towel around his mouth tape it shut tape it shut again and one more time for good luck so u keep your face then put a rope aound his mouth n pull it to your shoulder last start walking n praying that the tape don't come off hell bang against your head but that's why you put the towel n the rope to pull his head

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Tie a 4 or 5 round noose I make hobbles this way all the time works great for a snout rope too

Tieing is very simple people tend to make simple things hard. 3 pc of rope arms length will do. First double it run the working end through the loop on one leg you can add a half hitch if you want but not needed. Run the working ends over the next leg come under and over with the tails suck tight tight off with a surgens knot. Repeat I will usely tie the last hind leg off to the other leg with the ends. Snout tie one rope put the middle in the mouth behind the teeth loop around counter clock wise around the bottom jaw tie off done 


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It's obvious everyone has their own ways, so I'll share mine. I also use 3/8 mule tape. 2 circular piece will work. I'm going to demonstrate with headphones so bare with me.
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Place your hand inside the loop and grasp
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Pull the loop over your hand which now leaves a circle.
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Cinch down

Keep a small amount of tension with a dog leash or another piece of tape n he won't go anywhere

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