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Author Topic: Old line Black Mouth Curs  (Read 17167 times)
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2018, 11:01:58 am »

A lot of the difference of opinion on strains and styles of Cur dogs comes from different time frames and cultures or areas of the country. The lines of Curs that this topic was originally about were bred to find, put together, bay and "lead" stock. Some places Cur dogs were all about circle, bite, and call off to drive. Two totally different styles. The older generation with the lead dogs used on hogs used 1 or 2 dogs to find bay and lead hogs, if a dog killed a pig, or caught a hog out of a bunch "without being directed to" he was immediately killed. Those hogs were part of a hungry family's living and a dog was supposed to help them make a living not mash the life out of it.
Usually where they originated and were used they didn't find 200 head at a time but smaller groups of cattle and hogs in real thick rough country that were going to be driven for miles not a few hundred yards, nor with a big crew of people helping.
Ben Jordan had pretty much quit messing with hogs by the time he got into this strain of Yellow dogs, prior to that he had a good strain of Leopard dogs used on cattle and hogs, but lost out on them and "finally after a long search" found these yellow dogs that suited him. "They were like the Leopard dogs he had lost out on".  BEN JORDAN DESPISES A ROUGH DOG.
I know most of you folks would never believe that hogs today can or could be driven but if you could find a pocket of hogs that hadn't had modern day hog hunters in them with a bunch of rough dogs you could drive them with 1 or 2 dogs of the right style, and with a little know how, yes even the heavier Russian cross hogs. I bayed a set just the other day with Plott dogs that if I'd had a Cur dog or two could have been driven. It was 8 or 9 big sows "they were not heavy Russian" that really bayed solid and rallied up a storm and allowed me to go right up to them without flushing. I actually RUINED them by turning the catch dog loose and catching one, then the dogs rolled out and bayed 2 more singles which we caught as well, that group won't ever stand bayed the same again. I taught them they were not safe by rallying against the "predators".
Cattle or hogs that don't want to stop as a group but will stay together will stop and settle somewhere if the dogs don't flush and scatter them in their efforts to stop them. Dogs have to maintain the front end and stay "outside" of the group. The man needs to stay out of the way until that happens.
 most hogs are different today but we have made them different, all of them are just some old sows pig they are livestock in a sense and have inherent instincts that are still in them.
It doesn't bother me one little bit if people disagree with what I have said or think I am crazy, really I find it pretty funny. I don't care how you hunt hogs, I've already confessed to not doing it the old way even though I know how to and what kind of dog it takes.


























' he was killed  immediately. Total different concept of todays hog hunting
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