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seokiehogcatcher
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« on: May 18, 2012, 11:34:25 pm » |
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Alright well I got a dog in training that is very open on track and even when she's just trying to work a track out constantly belloring, a buddy of mine says he broke one of his dogs from doing the same thing with a shock collar and just giving him a jolt everytime he barked. My thoughts on this though is what if it backfires and the dog thinks it is being punished for tracking a scent, any input would be much appreciated.
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Have patience, put forth the effort into training, and watch the fruits of your labor stop squealing monsters in their tracks. No greater satisfaction than that.
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easttexasoutlaw33
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 01:19:38 am » |
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If the dog is open let it be open you can break them but hard and like 1 in 100 chance. If you cant deal with the barking get rid of the dog.
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 08:13:44 am » |
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I do agree with esttex33. If the dog is gentically open, I would let her be open and a shock collar could hurt. Trust me...I've made many mistakes, once you shock a dog you cant take that shock back. If you decide to go with the shock method, start low and dont hit her hard the firs time. If she is youg and excited, she may calm eventually. If the dog sees the shock as punishment, it could be a bad things. I am all for shocking the heck out of a dog that barks in the box, fights, or doesnt listen...and when I catch one running trash. But I dont consider opening on a track or sign to be worth punishing.
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riverbottomhoghunter
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 11:06:31 am » |
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if she is a true hog dog it will not make her stop hunting it may make her not bark so much
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t.wilbanks
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 11:19:10 am » |
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if she is a true hog dog it will not make her stop hunting it may make her not bark so much
Not true... You can ruin ANY dog if the shocking collar isnt used correctly.... even a ybmc...  Barking on track is not just a " bad habit " you can break a dog of.. That is in its genetics... |
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easttexasoutlaw33
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 02:29:42 pm » |
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Not true... You can ruin ANY dog if the shocking collar isnt used correctly.... even a ybmc... Barking on track is not just a " bad habit " you can break a dog of.. That is in its genetics... [/quote] x2 i agree i have had a dog we have done it to and the dog slowed down on the barking on track but was never really broke. I have also takin a cur dog that yipped on track that would flat hunt her ass off and was a hell of a dog but i run silent hounds and didnt want her to make them bark on track she was a buddies dog so we tried to shock her and flat ruined her |
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charles
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 03:56:10 pm » |
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i got a plott pup and when its time to start her and she is open. what about have her run a deer scent track and shock her from that and her barking at the same time. would that kind of shock theropy would, both trashing and barking on track?
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seokiehogcatcher
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 04:12:14 pm » |
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I also have to break her from baying armadillo that's all she trashes on but she does it bad, n as of last night she's started booger barking she's been becoming more and more open just gotta try something.
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Have patience, put forth the effort into training, and watch the fruits of your labor stop squealing monsters in their tracks. No greater satisfaction than that.
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charles
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 04:42:46 pm » |
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trap u a dillar and turn it loose in front of her and then turn her loose and when she goes to barking, lite her up. it should kill 2 birds with 1 stone. im hopin my hound pup aint open. she already knows what a shock collar is. had to break her from her constant barking in the kennel. 2 days of shock theropy fixed the constant barking.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2012, 08:28:13 pm » |
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if she is a true hog dog it will not make her stop hunting it may make her not bark so much
Not true... You can ruin ANY dog if the shocking collar isnt used correctly.... even a ybmc... Barking on track is not just a " bad habit " you can break a dog of.. That is in its genetics... I agree 100% with Trent....what you have is an OPEN mouthed dog,.....simple as that. You'll have to either live with it or trade her off. PLEASE don't put a shock collar on this dog in the frame of mind that you are in right now....be a big mistake and you will possibly ruin what could be a really good dog for somebody else. There are those of us that dont mind a dog that barks on track.....however, some folks look at you like you had just slapped them square in the mouth if your dog opens on a track. Just my opinion, but you've been given some really sound advice here,....think about listening to it and maybe heeding it. Good luck. |
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Firemedic, "the OLD wise man"  speaks the truth. Its in their genetics, I have seen them learn on their own to be silent, but I would never consider shocking on for barking on track. Charles, don't hold your breath on that pup being silent. |
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charles
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Tom, so far she has learned to stop her continuos brakin in the pen. Gotta work her on trashn n barkin on track. If she is open, oh well. She aint goin nowhere except the woods
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Alright well I got a dog in training that is very open on track and even when she's just trying to work a track out constantly belloring, a buddy of mine says he broke one of his dogs from doing the same thing with a shock collar and just giving him a jolt everytime he barked. My thoughts on this though is what if it backfires and the dog thinks it is being punished for tracking a scent, any input would be much appreciated.
very open is a slight concern for me if it were my dog...but very open when working a track... I would have to give that dog to someone who likes that type of dog...like it has already been mentioned...it is genetics and it is her natural inclination to bark on a cold track. young dogs sometimes start open and quiet down quite a bit as they get up around a year old... |
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