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« on: August 17, 2009, 03:41:05 pm »

I say up front, nothing said here will change my ways, but I was wondering, how do those of you that raise pups do it?

What I mean is do you just keep them in a pen and take care of them, or do they get a lot of handling and kid/people exposure?

I was raised with a dog or 2 in the house, so that has never bothered me. My standard procedure is a new guy sleeps in a crate in the house til he or she is about 4 months old. A couple of my Britts stayed longer. They are in and out and if everyone is gone for the day, they stay in the outside kennels.

It has always seemed to me that the pups I raise this way tend to be more agreeable to taking commands since they get commands and corrections from early on.

Aint trying to stir any arguments here, just wondering who does what.



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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 03:48:17 pm »

I raise my pups about the same way u do but they dont come in my house they stay in my yard i have three little girls that pack them around all day i usally keep them up at the house till there about six months old or untill they start tearing every thing up and running off and getting into stuff they dont need to be gettin in then i put them down with the big dogs i alway take my pups on the ranger or run traps with me to get them uses of getting hauled around. after six months i start showing them a pig
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 04:06:51 pm »

I start hauling mine early on as well. When they are little, I'll pitch em in the front seat. As they get bigger, they get in the dog box in back and thats where they ride from then on. As the get big enough to keep up well, I take them most every where I go and let them tag along to start getting used to the big old world.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 04:22:34 pm »

I raise 2 to 3 litters at a time. 15 to 20 pups 3 times a year. I start out for the first 6 months teaching them basic comands such as sit, stay, heal, lay down, load up, and come here. If I do not have good control over the pup at 6 months they are culled. I also try and find the smartest, the fastest learner to cary on in my traing schedule. At 6 months the pups go through a agility course training and after the pup has graduated this course they are slowly introduced to hunting.  I have averaged 82% success rate out of my pups which I think is pretty good. It takes alot of time with every pup if you want good control over them. Once this is abtained hunting comes easy to them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 04:40:57 pm »

I raise 2 to 3 litters at a time. 15 to 20 pups 3 times a year. I start out for the first 6 months teaching them basic comands such as sit, stay, heal, lay down, load up, and come here. If I do not have good control over the pup at 6 months they are culled. I also try and find the smartest, the fastest learner to cary on in my traing schedule. At 6 months the pups go through a agility course training and after the pup has graduated this course they are slowly introduced to hunting.  I have averaged 82% success rate out of my pups which I think is pretty good. It takes alot of time with every pup if you want good control over them. Once this is abtained hunting comes easy to them.

That sounds like a heck of a program .
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 04:47:17 pm »

ushog,

     When you mention 82% success rate, is that the dogs that you do not cull, or is that 82% of the pups born?

15-20 pups 3 times a year @ 82% has you training 43 pups a year.  That's pretty impressive.  Heck I have trouble raising one or two, much less training them.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 06:28:37 pm »

I will usually let them sleep in the house for about a month, and let them ride in the front of the truck until they cant fit through the bars on my dog box.
I always try and bring them to the beach or out on the boat with me in the summer. (Did you guys know that girls at the beach really like puppies?)
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 08:02:35 pm »

That number is out of what is born alive in the past 6 years. It is alot of work but I really enjoy the time I get with all of my dogs. Dogs and hogs are my full time jobs. If I am not hunting or guiding I am working with my dogs. I am working with 3 litters 12 pups at the moment. It started out with 18, 4 died young, gave 2 away to a friend, and I have not had a cull yet out of this group. One Dogo is being a little slow but she will turn on soon. Her brothers and sisters are hitting 50 to 75 pound sholts with no problem and no fear. They are 6 months at the moment. The 3 little bmc's are tracking hotdogs and pig hides pretty good at the moment but I havent started them hunting yet so I will see what happens.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 08:13:48 pm »

I will usually let them sleep in the house for about a month, and let them ride in the front of the truck until they cant fit through the bars on my dog box.
I always try and bring them to the beach or out on the boat with me in the summer. (Did you guys know that girls at the beach really like puppies?)

I know that girls like puppies wherever they see them!!!!!!! Wink Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 08:16:10 pm »

I will usually let them sleep in the house for about a month, and let them ride in the front of the truck until they cant fit through the bars on my dog box.
I always try and bring them to the beach or out on the boat with me in the summer. (Did you guys know that girls at the beach really like puppies?)

I know that girls like puppies wherever they see them!!!!!!! Wink Wink

It helps when they are in a bikini though Grin
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 08:27:54 pm »

I live in the country and i let my puppies run loose till about 8 months old... they learn alot being loose all the time. like how to use there nose, and i like for them to bark at cows, coons, possums, cats, or whatever else they can find around the house,,,
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 08:34:10 pm »

I will usually let them sleep in the house for about a month, and let them ride in the front of the truck until they cant fit through the bars on my dog box.
I always try and bring them to the beach or out on the boat with me in the summer. (Did you guys know that girls at the beach really like puppies?)

I know that girls like puppies wherever they see them!!!!!!! Wink Wink

It helps when they are in a bikini though Grin

Dogs in a bikini?Huh?Huh??? Shocked Shocked Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 11:44:34 pm »

Every litter that I raise, I influence less and they just keep getting better.....

The pups that I am working now are one year old and don't really know their names. I never pet them and I never played with them (though Julie has been known to cheat on occasion). The only interaction that they have gotten from me in the last year is feed, kennel cleaning and a couple trips to the bay pen. Now its feed, kennel cleaning and hunting. When they are in the woods, they don't care about me and they are not looking to me for direction; they are out exploring and when they figure out the objective, hunting.

I can guarantee that if these same pups were taught handle and manners, they would not be getting out of GPS range on a regular basis. They simply would not have the independence. They are the same breeding as my other dogs, only raised differently. They have more range at a year old with 3 to 5 hunts under their belts than their 5 and 6 year old parents who have thousands of hogs worth of experience between them.

To each his own. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to change their ways but you asked........

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 12:08:19 am »

Yes, I do cheat with Monteria's puppies. And the one I cheated with the most (because he was my best model Wink ) is turning out to be the best hog dog from that litter.

And I'm also gonna call you out on this one...

When they are in the woods, they don't care about me and they are not looking to me for direction; they are out exploring and when they figure out the objective, hunting. I can guarantee that if these same pups were taught handle and manners, they would not be getting out of GPS range on a regular basis. They simply would not have the independence.

Those hellions do pay attention to you, to the point that they will run up begging for it and act like idiots under your feet, and I believe that is because they were never socialized properly. Yet you can't catch the darn things at the end of a hunt. A dog without handle is a PITA to deal with and I don't think it makes them hunt any harder. They either have the desire and ability to hunt or they don't. Sure, calling them back to you every time they go exploring will interfere with that, but I think leaving them starved for attention will cause issues as well.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 12:28:38 am »

Ill agree that one of them was an attention whore..... an egregious personality disorder..... And I did stipulate "when they figure out the objective, hunting".

That particular pup has been in the woods a grand total of 4 times now, only twice since she "figured out the objective" (actually saw a pig). And she has been giving the Garmin a run for its money. But you wouldn't know that since you only ever saw her in the woods on her first hunt and maybe second......

The only remaining questions are..... Will she be consistent? Or will she be culled?

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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2009, 06:05:14 am »

JMO
  i believe a dog that is  handled adn has manners and trust will make a better dog all around and taught basic commands ,back(dont you come in this door or pen,get away from the gate) sit, down and HEY(thats the stop what ever your doing and look for direction or i am going to zap you) and NO that means no or ill zap you
 as for new dogs and pups ill bring them in the house and they stay with me almost a 100% and learn all the above with no zap action
and that mean in the house  with me on the couch on a saddle blanket or something,,, the first couple night they will spleep with me
on  the couch or on the floor(its a worn out back thing) with a leash on my arm so they move  i know and we go outside so i dont
have messes to clean,,
  heres Trixie and CJ when we brought them home a Masons Catdo and a Bar-M Lacy second is Sissie  a YBMC i got from catchrcall
it stops the coyote acting BS
    this is what works for me
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 09:36:26 am »

Well my coming 8 week old YBMC, Blade, is in the house with us. he bays the cat, he bays my 5 m/o Britt pup, my sons lab pup and 2 days ago when I fed the labs on the porch, he backed 'em all down so he could climb in the bowl and eat a little. A grown Britt, 2 labs that are about 5-6 times bigger and the Britt pup, just waiting for him to move on. It was funny as hell. I had to take him with me so they could eat.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 11:29:09 am »

Well I hope he is what you wanted in the pups I still have 3 and I believe I will keep them I dont need them but oh well I believe they will make some good dogs the little gyp gets prettier everyday I started feeding them that diamond puppy food with a little water and corn oil so they should really start blossoming
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 11:50:44 am »

Well I hope he is what you wanted in the pups I still have 3 and I believe I will keep them I dont need them but oh well I believe they will make some good dogs the little gyp gets prettier everyday I started feeding them that diamond puppy food with a little water and corn oil so they should really start blossoming

Jason, I believe Blade is twice as big as he was when I brought him home.  He gets Black Gold black bag and some puppy chow we had. He's slick and growing like a weed.

The way he bays everything around, I believe a pig will be in trouble. Just have to get him a little older and find out.
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 11:58:53 am »

get u a pig I have had 8 week old pups working little pigs likle grown dogs it is a funny thing to watch
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