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Title: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 02, 2014, 02:01:51 pm
Im new to the site but had a recent bad experience when trying to buy a pup I'm just wanting some of y'all's thoughts on this   
Say you make a Deal to buy a puppy your there on time with the money but the puppy is sickly looking do you trust the seller when the dog doesn't look right and the first thing he says is defensive about the puppies behavior
Or should I have taken a risk with the dog and the chance of infecting my kennels


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Title: Re: Trust
Post by: hogmantx1979 on February 02, 2014, 02:10:54 pm
Same as buying anything else don't buy what you don't like.who cares what the seller says


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Post by: justincorbell on February 02, 2014, 02:24:12 pm
Hell no, you didnt do wrong....if the pup is sick and the seller gets defensive with you thats a huge red flag, mosey on down the road and find a pup that was well cared for from a different individual.


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Post by: Amokabs on February 02, 2014, 02:27:03 pm
You did the right thing,, someone like that will get over his "hurt feelings" once he dumps that poor lil pup on a sucker.


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Post by: Shotgun wg on February 02, 2014, 03:20:08 pm
I agree if I go look at a dog and that dog don't look healthy I'm not buying it. Why would I take a chance at bringing a dog that may be sick onto my yard. 


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Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 02, 2014, 03:52:23 pm
Thanks to all who replayed the guy was pissed at me for wasting his time and money  a twenty minute drive for him 3. 1/2 hours for me he told me the dog was car
Sick  oh well it is what it is like I've seen on hear before this isn't a cheap sport


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Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bo Pugh on February 02, 2014, 04:14:49 pm
If you drive 3&1/2 hours to meet a guy and he drives 20 min that's not good ,you should have just drove the extra 20 min. So you would know where to take dog back to if things went wrong with the dog.  You did right by not buying the pup. The way I look at it is " it's your hard earned money if you want it get it . If you don't want it don't buy it. But I wouldn't have bought a sick puppy either


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Post by: dodgegirl on February 02, 2014, 04:50:51 pm
Did the pup look car sick or did it look like there was really something wrong with it? Had you seen pictures of the pup before you went to meet the guy? I think you did the right thing, always go with your gut feeling. To many other pups out there to waste money on one that might be sick.


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Post by: grittydog on February 02, 2014, 05:25:37 pm
With Parvo and other contagious diseases out there I wouldn't buy it either. If I buy a dog or puppy I will go to the sellers houser to see it, If they will not let you come there, they are probably a little shady anyway.


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Post by: Mpbarrs on February 02, 2014, 06:12:53 pm
I agree with y'all , something is shady about that deal. Especially with all the problems going around at the moment . Heck we have had a time with out pups . Ya did the right thing


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Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on February 02, 2014, 06:55:43 pm
You definitely made a good decision not buying. Hopefully you sanitized/changed clothes when you got home before fooling with any dogs you already have.


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Post by: Easttexasoutlaw on February 02, 2014, 08:17:20 pm
First they dog is really health and I dont have to be called a liar. I have gave it 2 sets of shots  and wormed regular. She is 10 wks old I have 4 of them it didnt matter to me I raise them all and u could tell the man knows nothing about dogs. The dog never been in a car or left it cage so it was scared and when left it was fine I was jus being honest that it was car sick I could of jus gave it to him and drove away


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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 02, 2014, 08:20:56 pm
I'm not who you bought it from but I wouldn't get on here and blast crap you have no clue about. I knoww hat kennel they came from andthey were rai sed properly.  All shots where given on time feed correctly however they weren't raised inside as they aren't house dogs. So maybe you should become more educated on the topic before you go to talking about someone kennels. Seen alot of pups come out of that kennel with not a complaint ever. From what I understand you had pictures of the dog if you didn't like it you shouldn't have drove. To others running their mouth you may want to get both sides before you pop off on a topic or situation  you have no clue about and weren't present for


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Post by: KevinN on February 02, 2014, 08:21:48 pm
2 sides to every story


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Post by: Purebreedcolt on February 02, 2014, 08:40:37 pm
Seen car sick pups befor so can understand that.  But I have drove a good ways and turned down a pup before so see bith sides.  I dont like bringing people I dont know around my house/kennels and if I ever sell any good chance if you want it you wont be coming to my house.  Too many crooks out there for me.  Ultimately to me though I dont like the looks of a dog/ pup I aint going to pay for it just my 1 cent worth not sure it is worth 2 lol

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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 02, 2014, 08:44:03 pm
I agree if you don't like it don't buy it. But don't get on here andtry  to blast people about things you don't know


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Post by: Mike on February 02, 2014, 08:47:51 pm
The man didn't mention anyone's name...


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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 02, 2014, 08:56:59 pm
The man didn't mention anyone's name...
Nobody asked for it to be removed. Who cares if he mentioned a name people are allowed to tell both sides of the story.


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Post by: Easttexasoutlaw on February 02, 2014, 09:05:02 pm
I dnot care what anyone thinks I just told him no big deal I take her home and raise her with the other three I keep so it no big deal to me I have raised over 200 dogs in my life


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Shotgun wg on February 02, 2014, 09:17:03 pm
The guy didn't blast anyone and no one knew who he was buying pup from. He asked if he was in the wrong. He may or may not know what he was looking at. He thought the dog looked sick. U say it was car sick so he wasn't completely wrong.. The guy was uncomfortable and backed out. U have basically backed up the op's original post in ur own words. U coming on here blasting him backs up the part that u may have gotten defensive and told him he was wasting ur time.

Sounds like both sides are saying the same thing.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Easttexasoutlaw on February 02, 2014, 09:43:22 pm
He did waste my time the pup running around fine now i just told I go back im not begging anyone to buy her and Yal right  he have buy her but dont act like my dogs are UN healthy bc I strive to not treat my dogs the way other do. I have alot of time and money in my dogs for a man to call me a liar and say it parvo my dogs never touch dirt unless we are hunting Im done trying to prove number 2 to anyone and no one is coming to my house period to many theifs in this world


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 02, 2014, 09:49:04 pm
Thanks for all the comments I   Tried to keep names out of it bc I could of been wrong Just didnt want to take a risk on buying the pup I'm not mad didnt call him a liar and for the record if I didn't know anything about dogs I would of bought it just bc I drove so  far but there was more at stake than just gas money for me


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Title: Re: Trust
Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 02, 2014, 09:56:57 pm
Thanks for all the comments I   Tried to keep names out of it bc I could of been wrong Just didnt want to take a risk on buying the pup I'm not mad didnt call him a liar and for the record if I didn't know anything about dogs I would of bought it just bc I drove so  far but there was more at stake than just gas money for me


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But you don't you told him it wasn't car sick it had parody.  So yes he did blast bc he said he was lying about being car sick that dog had parvo so once again people running their head and have nothing but a story from a guy who's on post is complaining about somethinghe obv iously knows zero about


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Post by: cantexduck on February 02, 2014, 09:59:39 pm
Post a current picture of the pup. That might clear the air.


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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 02, 2014, 10:22:27 pm
Not my dog


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 03, 2014, 05:10:08 am
The word parvo never came out if my mouth  just didn't like what I saw and why are you running your head it wasn't your pup


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Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Atlas on February 03, 2014, 05:23:37 am
I think it is pretty simple. You don't like the dog don't buy it, if a breeder/kennel is offended by that who cares, as you (the buyer) will be feeding it.

As for the rest - the poster came one here not mentioning any names, kennels or people and asked a question in the most respectable way possible so as not to offend anyone.


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 03, 2014, 05:52:15 am
Thanks atlas and everyone else


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Post by: Easttexasoutlaw on February 03, 2014, 09:48:57 am
U wife said parvo and I dont like to waste my time if I could post videos I show u all how healthy they are  barking at a pig when I got home so lets jus drop it no big deal that why sent photos off dog here my number if anyone else has a smart comment all u internet hog hunters 9365810473


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Post by: justincorbell on February 03, 2014, 10:01:06 am
U wife said parvo and I dont like to waste my time if I could post videos I show u all how healthy they are  barking at a pig when I got home so lets jus drop it no big deal that why sent photos off dog here my number if anyone else has a smart comment all u internet hog hunters 9365810473

Relax man, I don't think the op was tryin to call you or anyone out for that matter. Hell it didn't work out, happens all the time, im sure you will get those pups sold pretty quick. good luck with em.


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Post by: cantexduck on February 03, 2014, 10:03:42 am
 No need to get the red azz. Guy didn't post your name.  He didn't even mention anything that would of led someone to you.  
  Do you sell many pups ?


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Post by: Mike on February 03, 2014, 10:29:30 am
Yep... there's just a bunch of internet hunters on here.


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Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on February 03, 2014, 10:38:37 am
The guy didn't blast anyone and no one knew who he was buying pup from. He asked if he was in the wrong. He may or may not know what he was looking at. He thought the dog looked sick. U say it was car sick so he wasn't completely wrong.. The guy was uncomfortable and backed out. U have basically backed up the op's original post in ur own words. U coming on here blasting him backs up the part that u may have gotten defensive and told him he was wasting ur time.

Sounds like both sides are saying the same thing.


Shotgun
Arkansas

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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 03, 2014, 01:09:56 pm
Yep... there's just a bunch of internet hunters on here.

Yes sir there are a bunch of Internet hunters on here. I'm sure you know alot bc I've seen you say it alot when people say stuff you don't like


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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 03, 2014, 01:15:29 pm
The word parvo never came out if my mouth  just didn't like what I saw and why are you running your head it wasn't your pup


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Bc i have dogs in these kennels as well and I know exactly what happens in the kennels and we have more time and money in our dogs then most on here so when newbie gets on and projects that one of our dogs is unhealthy with no proof. I take it offensively so that's why if you have problem with that pm me


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Post by: Bo Pugh on February 03, 2014, 02:36:02 pm
he asked a simple question, and most gave him a reasonable answer to his question. no need to get on here get all pissed off, if u had drove to buy a pup and it looked mangy are sick or whatever reason you probably wouldnt have been a nice guy and bought it just to keep from wasting that mans time. i been internet hunting for the last 3-4 months as deer season was in and couldnt hunt but now im only a internet hog hunter while im at work and get paid a little to do it but i do get to hunt a little in the evenings and on the weekends.


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 03, 2014, 02:53:42 pm
he asked a simple question, and most gave him a reasonable answer to his question. no need to get on here get all pissed off, if u had drove to buy a pup and it looked mangy are sick or whatever reason you probably wouldnt have been a nice guy and bought it just to keep from wasting that mans time. i been internet hunting for the last 3-4 months as deer season was in and couldnt hunt but now im only a internet hog hunter while im at work and get paid a little to do it but i do get to hunt a little in the evenings and on the weekends.
Okay but if see current pictures and then waste mans time it is my fault and once again what he wrote isn't what happened his wife accused dog of having parvo. I think I'm just gonna go have the dog parvo tested and post the results so all the people that are defending the man based on his story only will shut up and show mr Bigboy84 he was wrong and really had no clue what he was saying


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Post by: charles on February 03, 2014, 04:01:28 pm
 I can see this topic getting locked. but in the mean time, wheres the popcorn


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Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 03, 2014, 04:26:56 pm
 :'( I got it popping


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Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on February 03, 2014, 05:36:01 pm
Jeebus I think people oughtta settle down a bit. I understand defending our honor and all that, but, sometimes when you go about it in an excessive or extreme manner you wind up making yourself look as though you're guilty or something even if you're not. We can all get our points across respectable (well, most of us anyway, lol.). I didn't take the OP's post as slanderous. Sounded to me more like he was a novice in picking out pups and was unsure of the situation so he was simply asking for advice. Didn't see any names being thrown around, nor that he claimed the pup had parvo. Not on here anyway.


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 03, 2014, 07:20:33 pm
Ok you east texas " outlaws" the guy lives 20 miles and was thirty minutes late he gets there and the first things he said was the dog is car sick did t introduce which I tried dont even remember his name he was so quick to getting back to telling me the dog was car sick sorry that threw up a red flag but I'm sure many other people would of done the same so the  I look at the back end dried runny poop on back of the legs another flag my wife might of said parvo I never did he told me that it was dirt from being outside but if you refer back to one of his earlier post he said " my dogs never touch the ground unless hunting" or something to that effect so we leave and no more than two minutes go by and I start hearing about how I wasted his time and money and how when you make a deal with someone you should honor it I will say this I respect the fact that he held the pup for me till my day off  but i was there too I'm sorry it did t work out that's part of life I'm sure you wouldn't of mailed me my money back if it died that's why I backed out and as far as bashing you never my intention never would of said your name maybe would of bought a pup from you In The future just not her

Never meant for it to end like this but I'm not going to stand by and be bashed either  so I would like to say once again sorry it didn't work out let's put it behind us and move on


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Post by: charles on February 03, 2014, 07:26:57 pm
:'( I got it popping

is it kettle corn or regular ole' popcorn?  ;D


Title: Re: Trust
Post by: Bigboy84 on February 03, 2014, 07:27:19 pm
And leave my wife out of this the deal was made between you and I


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Post by: easttexasoutlaw33 on February 03, 2014, 07:35:44 pm
Two completely diff people my man.
conversation is going nowhere i will have the dog tested and post the results and that will solve the problem and show how little you know the end


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Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 03, 2014, 07:44:51 pm
Good ole' butter.

I don't think having the pup tested now would prove anything that happened between y'all bud.... If the pup had parvovirus it would more than likely be dead. No one will ever know what was said between y'all at your meeting, and quite frankly I don't think anyone cares. It really boils down to the fact that the man didn't like what he seen and choose not to buy the pup. Nothing more nothing less. He definitely didn't say any names so you would have been better off not even getting involved in the thread and no one would still know who he was talking about. Bigboy84 you did not do anything wrong. Outlaw keep the pup and go catch hogs. That is what were here for anyhow. And if you had the litter for reasons other than making a dollar you should be happy you get to keep another one of your dogs.


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Post by: Easttexasoutlaw on February 03, 2014, 07:47:54 pm
Ok like I said it was no big deal I take her home and raise her l. So Ur right lets move on bc really I dont care
and my dogs live on plywood kennel floors but oh well I glad I keep her she now she bark first out the 4 at a pig today have  nice night and good hunting


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Post by: cantexduck on February 03, 2014, 08:20:15 pm
Bigboy84,
   I really think you are better off without that pup from what I can tell. What part of the state are you from?


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Post by: sp on February 03, 2014, 08:29:21 pm
God bless, I have not posted on here in ages, just read stuff.  But geez, calling out the owner of the site! Waiting for one of Mike's one liner zingers like "see ya"!


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Post by: Easttex91 on February 03, 2014, 08:41:02 pm
Gotta check statistics if someone is posting a ton in dog trade there may be a reason.


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Post by: SwampHunter on February 03, 2014, 08:44:50 pm
I have drove many a miles looked at horses , cows , dogs , chickens , cars whatever
An if I don't like what I see in person then I'm not buying at all

I drove 6 hours to look at a strike dog , an told the guy to hold her for me but guess what we didn't get on any hogs when we tried her out , I don't think it was dogs fault there was zero hog sign but I dang sure wasn't gonna buy her because I wasn't impressed with what I saw

Bigboy you did right thing

An outlaw whichever one had the dog if dog was carsick or not if he didn't like what he saw when he got there you can't get mad that's how it goes selling stuff , you can put 30 dogs out there an we both go look at them you are gonna like differt ones than the other guy


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Post by: SwampHunter on February 03, 2014, 08:48:36 pm
I just noticed the pup ads said need gone ASAP


I never seen highly desired pups hard to get rid off


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Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 03, 2014, 09:05:43 pm
 :o


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Post by: Easttexasoutlaw on February 03, 2014, 09:40:26 pm
Not mad one bit actually glad i didn't sell him one and I wanted them gone bc I have 20 dogs and i kept the few I want so anowas getting them out my hair this is all funny now to me it jus good comedy lol


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Post by: Bryant on February 03, 2014, 10:21:41 pm
I never seen highly desired pups hard to get rid off

I never seen highly desired pups posted in an ad period.

People unnecessarily becoming defensive has always been a red flag for me.


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Post by: LAhogger84 on February 10, 2014, 09:39:59 pm
Interesting