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Reuben
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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2015, 07:11:19 pm »

Probably best that you guys stay away from them.    If you don't understand them and how to use them just don't get them.       If your getting them killed, your doing something or multiple  things very wrong.        Most people will not be able to analyze why they are failing with them but that same person might very well be able to wrap their head around a different style of hunting dog.    Probably  best to let they people who successfully  run such dogs in question, answere the question.

He said RCD not finder holder, there's more than one kind of rcd and more than one way to use them


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Glad at least YOU realize.    Might try telling that to your buddy Ruben since he is  the one trying to answere the man's question by using them.  He clearly knows jack about them but is all to happy to talk about them as if he does.        Even if he did once own some kinda lurcher, that don't give you the right to compare junk in one breed or type to the better of another.          Another thing while I'm at it, if you are one of the ones that fail at doing something when others do it extremely  successfully, do you really think that person should be so eager to drag such into the discussion as if they are experts on them.   Especially  since you yourself just said  it isn't the same thing?         I wasn't the one that brought them to try to answere the man's question.     Matter of fact I didn't answere the question question because you are right,  Finder holders and RCDs  are not the same thing.  Did this deliberately because I don't have RCDs  and never have.  

   However Leif,  since the man asked about RCDs  finding their own pigs and since you are so quick to tell me This ain't the same as a finder holder,    how about telling me the difference between an RCD  that finds its own pigs and a Finder Holder since your trying to educate  me on it!
I have seen some that were excellent hunters with a ton of grit...enough that I knew I didn't want any of that type...they were mt cur crossed with pit bull...every now and then you would get one that was about the right balance of traits from each parent...but most didn't live very long...the mt curs were from my line I used to keep...

I don't want a RCD or Lurcher type but I do want a great hunting dog with just enough sense to not be suicidal...catch enough to stop one and back off if the hog will keep still and when I get there I can call the dog to back away or I can give the command to catch it again...that is the goal...the average sight hound probably won't have the nose or the ability to find and stick with a bad runner in the thick thick briar patches and thick cutovers...

black streak...now I know the meaning behind the handle. there seems to be a dark side about you...you write like you are the total expert on the subject. Like liefalwepon said...there are many styles of running catch dogs and I was speaking of one type and that type I do not recommend...these are the hard hunting type that will get deep and not come back because they have one thing in mind and that is to catch a hog...these dogs can have a short life span due to over heating, drowning or by a big bad boar...these dogs hunting drive is about the same as a good hunting dog such as a good hound or mt cur...they will go deep, get deep under a briar patch where someone can not go in easily and scenarios of these types can get a dog in trouble...must I go into more detail so you can understand what I am talking about...true I do not know much about your style of dog but if I were into them I would strive to have the best and breed in that direction...

How many generations of tight bred dogs of this type have you bred and do they breed true? it is highly unlikely that you get a high percentage of great dogs unless you lucked into someone else's hard work and now you are the know it all expert on how every pup will turn out and I suppose you have grasped it well and have wrapped your head around it...because I reckon all your pups have it in their DNA to automatically know to stay clear of the cutters...what about getting in the thick brush such as blackberry patch 5 acres around after a hog, and can not maneuver in it...well your dogs won't get cut in that situation probably because you don't have a dog with that type of determination to get deep in the briar patch to locate and catch that hog...how about when the hog makes it into a deep dry creek with steep banks and the dog gets pinned between the hog and the bank or between another dog and bank? maybe you have never had your dogs in that situation...a dog can get caught up in that scenario but I reckon your dogs are magical according to your expert opinion...

when you say what you say about your dogs makes me think you have been lucky or are in denial.

What you need to do is understand the question before you speak so you won't have to sound so arrogant... or maybe I just need to give more detail so you can understand what I am talking about due to your lack of experience... Huh?  Grin  Smiley

a few weeks ago you made a comment about me not getting to the point and I thought to myself...look who is calling the kettle black...  Smiley

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