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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2011, 09:08:28 am » |
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Yes burnt diesle and time more than I would like to mention Made a mistake and met a fellow somewhere and bought dogs on trial and trusted this guy dogs never saw a hog before and he changed his number dumbest thing I ever did. Like they say live and learn will never buy another dog unless I see the dog work before I leave and will pick up the dog at the guys house so I know where he lives.
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2011, 09:42:39 am » |
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If you want to play you have to pay, with all of the million hogs more than when i started hunting with dogs in the 60s when they were few and far between who is to blame when somebody does not go hunting with a trial dog with the money still in his wallet?? Did the dog trader pull a gun on you in the classifed add and fource you to get in too big a hurry or and use bad judhgement and pay beofore you try?  No, peeps want instant strike dogs for free and want them delevered by a dog trader yesterday, its always the same, you should have been with me when cat dogs were worth $2000 to $5000 for a straight cat dog that would catch enuff bobcat hides to buy a new 67 1/2 ton truck from hides and gas was cheap, we hunted every night school was out during xmass holiday till it went back inlol A hog dog cost $50 back then and it was really a javinalla dog that saw about a 400 javilinas for every hog they were so scare from all of the screwworms killing everthing, a cataloula dog that could wind a cow or calf full of screwworms was worth $1000 and was not for sale, you would work every time if you had such a dog too and people called day and night or you to come and doctor worms. Find a ol dog trader and deal with him is my advice, to easy to post a dreamer dog on the web in here and get peeps to drive or send money beofre they try i guess is the answer. |
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2011, 10:32:15 am » |
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everybody needs to quit making excuses for sorry dogs.good dogs get it done ,plain and simple.good dogs dont need to get used to u,good dogs fall out and go do there damn job.thats why there is so much junk out there.hunt hard and cull even harder.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2011, 10:50:30 am » |
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Another good pratice is if you buy a dog off the forum go to the persons profile go to there "persons last post" and if they have 100 post and 75 of them are selling dogs,well most likely they are a dog trader or they go thru alot of dogs.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2011, 01:27:09 pm » |
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everybody needs to quit making excuses for sorry dogs.good dogs get it done ,plain and simple.good dogs dont need to get used to u,good dogs fall out and go do there damn job.thats why there is so much junk out there.hunt hard and cull even harder.
I agree I've hunted alot of dogs to know that a good dog is a GOOD dog! Ya if they r a good dog it doesn't matter who's hunting them. I sold two of the best dogs I've ever owned to a guy in louisiana and they hunt just as good with I'm as they did with me |
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2011, 02:29:04 pm » |
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i agree and disagree with some of these post. as far a good dog hunting for whoever and whenever isnt always true. some dogs do have to adjust to there new owners and there new pack. dogs feel stress and anxiety just like people, and new homes and packs probably cause some. the times ive bought dogs i always fed them for a week or two before hunting them and socialized them with the other dogs. and just because a dog is for sale doesnt always make it a cull, even though that is usually the case. my definition of a "GOOD" dog is one that is rangey, with a good nose, is good at holdin a bay but if not will stick with a hog till hes too tired to run. if i raise some pups and by the time they 12 months there still huntin close they go for sale. to me close range is code word for cull. but to alot of people that i know they would sale the dog if he was ranging over 400 yrds.
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2011, 02:58:53 pm » |
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Welcome to hunting with dogs. From the time you take the money out of your pocket until the dogs dies, you took a risk with your money.
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"We are all on our way out...ACT ACCORDINGLY"
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2011, 06:49:53 pm » |
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everybody needs to quit making excuses for sorry dogs.good dogs get it done ,plain and simple.good dogs dont need to get used to u,good dogs fall out and go do there damn job.thats why there is so much junk out there.hunt hard and cull even harder.
Dont necessarily agree with that. Both of my finished dogs, i hunted with and lived next door to one, fed and cared for her while neighbor was out of town for years. When i got both of them (years apart), they wouldnt do nothin for me the first few times out. both of them knew me for at least a year each.. but it took time for them to realize they were hunting for me know and not the previous owner. Till the day my old gyp died if my buddy who raised her was with me in the woods, she would hunt for him and not me. Some dogs are just weird but i once she realized I was the new boss it was back to buisness as usual. |
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2011, 07:21:57 pm » |
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thats true rd , i'll tellya what i was always told about curdogs , if they get traded around too much alot of em will go to chit .
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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2011, 02:02:28 am » |
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Ive heard that too.. My male now has been through prob 5 people.. but hes still getting it done.. just took me a little while longer with him.. even though I had hunted with him for about two years.. He just wasnt mine then.
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2011, 07:03:51 am » |
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thats true rd , i'll tellya what i was always told about curdogs , if they get traded around too much alot of em will go to chit .
If a cur dog or any hunting dog gets traded often more than likely that dog is a cull. I have seen quite a few top notch mtn curs quit hunting for several months because they do not want to hunt for the new owner. Once they accept the new owner as the "MASTER," the dog will hunt and within a few hunts will be back to his true hunting form. These dogs need to be treated with a lot of care, you have to make friends with it and take it with you on rides and long walks and have lots of patience. Lose your cool once with these type of dogs you might as well cull the dog because it will be a setback. Usually these type of dogs do not need much correction. These type of dogs have a tendency to be one man dogs. A really good dog is usually not for sale unless you have lots of money or are willing to sacrifice and pay for a great dog. I choose to buy several pups from a good line of dogs and then breed them and select from these dogs. It is a slower process but well worth the wait. This way I can test and evaluate the pups and hopefully pick the best from the whole litter. I have always been happier doing it this way. However, it is better to have a dog that wants to hunt regardless of who takes it. When I was younger the phone company charged quite a bit for long distance and I spent lots of money on calls and not to mention gas and travel time, bought lots of dogs that I had to cull later. I will not waste my time doing that again. Been there done that... It is amusing to me that these dog traders always have just what you are looking for. At least make them describe the dog to you and have them tell you how the dog hunts before you say anything about what you are looking for. Chances are they don't know how a good dog is supposed to hunt or look like, much less breed one....  |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2011, 08:53:43 am » |
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everybody needs to quit making excuses for sorry dogs.good dogs get it done ,plain and simple.good dogs dont need to get used to u,good dogs fall out and go do there damn job.thats why there is so much junk out there.hunt hard and cull even harder.
It has nothing to do with excuses........... I just got this pitbull that is points away from being a champion pitbull. Well to say the least he would just sniff a 40lb hog. I let an experiance catch dog grab one ear and like lighting guess what happened.....The dogs instincts took part and is grabbing ear all by himself...I'll be posting some vid's soon. All dogs have the instinct to hunt. The thing is the instinct has been some what breed out of them. Kinda like colors size hair length and all. If you don't have time to train an animal.Hey you got money right? Anybody can buy a dog and go hunting.BUT like poker if you dont know what your doing....Your gonna lose your asss in some cash. Dogs are like kids.Some days they are gonna do what you need them to do and other days there going to sit in there room. |
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2011, 10:37:55 am » |
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Bigdog I guess your to picky expecting a dog to hunt where ever you drop him, with who ever drops him on the ground  maybe you and I expect to much from these old dogs  If I buy the dogs feed he better hope he isn't feeling shy or sad to many day's in a row or be having a mid life crisis, if it does I have a solution for him to help get over it real quick. |
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2011, 11:07:17 am » |
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My husbands cousin is wanting to get into hogdogging and he has a pup but he wants to buy a finished dog also. We warned him to be very careful about buying a dog and told him to be sure to see it hunt before he buys one. He found a dog for sale. When he told the guy that he wanted to see it hunt before he bought it, the guy said fine but there would be an extra 100 dollars added to the price. IF IT COSTS AN EXTRA 100 DOLLARS FOR ME TO SEE YOUR DOG HUNT, THEN THAT FREAKIN DOG BETTER FIND A HOG, BAY IT, CATCH IT, LOAD IT UP AND THEN CLEAN IT WHEN WE GET HOME! What a douche bag! That just sends a red flag to me that you are not someone that i would ever do business with. |
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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2011, 12:44:32 pm » |
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everybody needs to quit making excuses for sorry dogs.good dogs get it done ,plain and simple.good dogs dont need to get used to u,good dogs fall out and go do there damn job.thats why there is so much junk out there.hunt hard and cull even harder.
It has nothing to do with excuses........... I just got this pitbull that is points away from being a champion pitbull. Well to say the least he would just sniff a 40lb hog. I let an experiance catch dog grab one ear and like lighting guess what happened.....The dogs instincts took part and is grabbing ear all by himself...I'll be posting some vid's soon. All dogs have the instinct to hunt. The thing is the instinct has been some what breed out of them. Kinda like colors size hair length and all. If you don't have time to train an animal.Hey you got money right? Anybody can buy a dog and go hunting.BUT like poker if you dont know what your doing....Your gonna lose your asss in some cash. Dogs are like kids.Some days they are gonna do what you need them to do and other days there going to sit in there room. If the dog is healthy and a good hunting dog it will always hunt for the master. Usually a good hunting dog does not have a bad day. The dog might not hunt to his/her full potential but it will hunt. |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2011, 06:29:41 pm » |
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yea a good dog is just a good dog thats all it is to it and a sorry dog needs to be culled on the spot, take the money lose learn from the lesson and dont rip someone else off, if culling ever crosses the mind go ahead and do it, its the right choice if you dont do it then ,you will talk your self out of it and waste dog food
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2011, 06:50:54 pm » |
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life is a gamble, buying a used truck is no different than buying a dog you dont no whats wrong with it but it looks good.
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2011, 07:21:30 pm » |
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my bud sold a a 7 yr dog to 1 other bud and to this day he is not huntin any where near his potential.he was a 1 owner dog for those years never hunted by anyone else.but we all had hunted behind the dog and knew how he hunted,wouldnt quit a hog,sometime pizzz ya off cause he wouldnt quit,go yonder kind. but he still aint doin it quite up to par for the new owner.offered to buy him back but they been catchin hogs with him so decided to keep him. point is IMHO the way a dog is raised will determine how they are gonna hunt if theyre sold to someone else.
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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2011, 08:20:02 pm » |
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99% of people wont sell a sure enough finished dog. You dont hear many people say " Yeah, I got this dog, man, he just hunts too good for me, bays too many hogs" Instead you hear "Im downsizing" Or "I got some young dogs coming up and need the room" Ive got two that are truly finished and theres no amount of money that can touch them. That being said, if I had to quit hunting for some reason, Id give them to my close hunting buds. Ive made those trips myself and bought dogs that were culls. But I think the guys who sold them REALLY thought they were good dogs. The best way to do it is to raise a few young ones a year, keep the good ones and cull the rest.  |
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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2011, 06:22:26 am » |
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I've hunted dogs outa south,east,an west texas an louisiana an jus cause its a good dog in that part of the country it doesn't mean its gona be as good where you hunt I think an jus my 2cents that the type of envoirment or land you hunt effects the way a dog hunts an does things
X110 not talking smack but I know of a few dogs that wouldn't cut it here where we hunt, but made good dogs down south.. Flatter ground and way more open country X3 I've picked up dogs from north ms and brought them down to south la and would not hunter our terrain for sqwat I geuss they didn't like the marsh but then I've bought dogs from around the same place and took the guy hunting and he said he wanted to buy him back cause he never seen the dog hunt like that I told him no of coarse but I always hunt with a dog before I buy it's a must and I like a trail on them too jmo |
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