History of the Old English Whites...

[jakes]

I will add that bull and terrier crosses were not uncommon in that era. Infact they were desired for bull and rat baiting. The bull terrier hinks created was a desired for it's white coat.

[warrent423]

I believe most of the "white" bulldogs my family had access to were of spanish decent. Lot of the spanish that settled here in Florida were cowman who brought and bred stockdogs of the alaunt "type".  I believe these dogs to be more of a bulldog type than breed. Definitely believe the sheperd's mastiff/bulldog proper, to be in the mix. I believe these dogs to be completely seperate from pit bull dogs, as these dogs were bred to work, not fight. Again, this is just my families "beliefs", but I will say this, the ones we've owned were "natural" stockdogs all by themselves.

[Crib]

easy on california there roo lol. also ya look close you will see them 2 men have boxing gloves on. as for  the makeup of the pit bull terrier its which camp you want to go with. the bulldog to a game terrier breed or the apbt is basically what was called stafordshire bull terriers too. look inot old stuff on bearenbisers and bullenbeisers and  has history also. as a ab man for many yrs now and before that a apbt guy i always enjoy historical stuff. as for abs i do believe in some lines they go back to dogs such as in the cool painting you posted but i also believe some abs, white english, old southern whites etc are pretty much a breed made up here in america from dogs that either looked the same a dn or did the job of what folks wanted from a so called bulldog.

I agree

[Crib]

you can search and search bout them bull dogs.  Seems most stuff you find now is people pushing whatever line they are selling.  Seems they have split into several directions, not as many working dogs.  guess its the same with a lot of breeds  JMO

I believe this to be true as well, esp nowadays

[brandeek1]

Those dogs resemble my Arkansas Giant in body structure. He's cross between Olde English Bulldog n Pitt.

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