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« on: December 24, 2012, 04:22:33 pm » |
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I just inherited a redbone and a walker both hog dogs from a friend who is dying with cancer. Well I have always hunted catahoulas or ybmc's.. Opinions on why a hound would be better over a cur. Just wondering
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halfbreed
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2012, 04:28:55 pm » |
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just the nose and leg about it .
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KevinN
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 04:38:58 pm » |
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Different more than better. Gonna be a different style of hunting, lol. Ready for a race?  |
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 04:43:18 pm » |
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If I don't like them I can always give them away!! Maybe instead of getting out run they will put a hog at the end of the chase now!!
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 04:52:37 pm » |
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Swamphunter added some hounds to our pack...I don't notice much of a difference... are races don't last any longer than they already did...our curs and hounds work good together
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 05:30:23 pm » |
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It will depend on the hound and cur you are comparing
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KevinN
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 05:36:21 pm » |
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? No difference? The hounds are PROBABLY going to be open.
If a mans never hunted behind open dogs before, lol, it's going to be different.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 05:45:35 pm » |
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I can say I've never hunted behind open dogs before. I know they are rough. I am used to 400 or 500 yard dogs. Supposedly these dogs check in every hour not every 20 minutes like I'm used to
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txsteve85
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2012, 05:50:09 pm » |
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Yes they are open and still doesn't make much difference
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KevinN
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 05:51:52 pm » |
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Yes they are open and still doesn't make much difference
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2012, 06:22:37 pm » |
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It's all about speed , how fast the dog can move a track if he opening up an Anit moving then you gonna have a long race but if the dog opening up an moving a track fast , faster than some cur dogs can  then you Anit gonna have a problem , If you decided you don't like them opening let me know , Main difference in a hound that you will prolly notice 1. Most likely open 2. Doesn't care bout hunting with you or for you , he hunting for him self 3.will prolly have better nose not always though some curs have cold nose an some hounds are hot nosed 4.more bottom most of the time not always there just as many sorry hounds as there is cur dogs 5. If you get a good hound you an hunt with it you will love it , 6.cur dog or hound who cares open or not who cares as long as they putting hogs at the end of the track ! |
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hogdogger98
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2012, 06:43:14 pm » |
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My friend says that when the walker was hunted regular he was as good as he had ever owned and the redbone would be with the hog if you didnt get to him until the next day. They haven't been hunted in over a year. I've used them to start pups in a pen and the flat hate a hog!!
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2012, 07:10:00 pm » |
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Track speed is all that really matters. If an open dog can "run" or "push" a hog fast enough to sprint the hog will stop.
Generally speaking a cur runs nose up and a hound nose down. A fast open hound can bay just as many hogs as a silent cur. No matter where you hunt.
Hounds vs. curs is mostly a regional thing and nothing to argue about. The Individual States dog hunting laws have had a big influence where there are more running hounds available or not.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2012, 07:12:11 pm » |
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Swamphunter,
I saw the red warning but didn't read your post. I started typing and came back and clicked post. We agree!
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Reuben
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2012, 07:16:42 pm » |
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way back we tried a few cats and bmc and didn't like them...at least the ones we tried...well we weren't catching many hogs at that time so my brother got a redbone he called bone...bone was a pain in the butt because he always wanted to fight other male dogs...but when he got on a hog track you could bet your last dollar on him finding and baying a hog...heck, as soon as we unloaded off the boat he opened on a track that the other dogs ignored and a few miles of cold trailing and a few hours later he jumped the hog and by that time none of the dogs would go to him...but he did what I was looking for in a dog that the other dogs weren't doing for us...he got in after that big boar in a thick 2 acre briar patch and he kept at it until he bayed that hog and when the airedale showed up it was a caught hog...hence the mt. cur idea was born...somewhere in the middle...but todays cur dogs used for hunting I would bet have a touch of some kind of hound...and to me that is a good thing...
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2012, 08:28:43 pm » |
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If I had any advice for you it would be to hunt these dogs and see what they will do. They're no different than any other type of dog, they may be open, might not be. Doesn't matter either way if they get the job done seems to me. I always had hounds up until about 7 years ago... I got a couple if curs and I like them, like them a lot.... but my buddies in TN almost all have hounds, I hunt my two silent curs right with these open hounds.... works fine. None of our dogs are gone for an hour looking for a track.... they make 250 yard loops and check back in..... which is just right to me. Give these hounds a chance.... you might actually like hunting with them.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2012, 08:14:16 am » |
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The absolute best hog dog you will ever find will be that once in a lifetime cur dog, but they are just about as scarce as an 18 yr old virgin. I hunt and raise plotts, and very few curs can hold up to the standards that these dogs have set for me. For any kind of dog, you have to set your priorities in order of importance and see if they stack up. I have heard alot of quotes that just make me laugh, "he has a dang cold nose for a cur dog"...well ok, does that mean he is cold nosed or just medium nose? "My cur dogs will run one for 3 hrs"...ok so will my year old puppies. I really dont want to start a pissin match caause I hunt what I like and everybody should do the same.....and I have been to places where there were alot of hogs and my hounds jumped one hog, ran it for 2 hrs while cur dogs caught 4.....and I have seen some great cur dogs that could get it done anywhere at any time......but it seems to me most people get excited when a cur dog does what I EXPECT my hounds to do.
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Reuben
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2012, 08:38:20 am » |
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The absolute best hog dog you will ever find will be that once in a lifetime cur dog, but they are just about as scarce as an 18 yr old virgin. I hunt and raise plotts, and very few curs can hold up to the standards that these dogs have set for me. For any kind of dog, you have to set your priorities in order of importance and see if they stack up. I have heard alot of quotes that just make me laugh, "he has a dang cold nose for a cur dog"...well ok, does that mean he is cold nosed or just medium nose? "My cur dogs will run one for 3 hrs"...ok so will my year old puppies. I really dont want to start a pissin match caause I hunt what I like and everybody should do the same.....and I have been to places where there were alot of hogs and my hounds jumped one hog, ran it for 2 hrs while cur dogs caught 4.....and I have seen some great cur dogs that could get it done anywhere at any time......but it seems to me most people get excited when a cur dog does what I EXPECT my hounds to do.
I like what you said...some of the best hog dogs I have hunted with were curs with some hound in them...lots of good ones in the old time mt. cur... |
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 01:16:13 pm » |
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KevinN I assume you have lots of experience with hounds. What did you run?
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