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« on: April 29, 2016, 09:01:07 pm »

I think a lot of times it boils down to the dog are the dogs themselves and having the know-how to really stop a big hog.  I know that I have had the best success and stopping bigger hogs is when I have had a pack of dogs that have hunted together for a good while.  They each have a job and work in unison. I see people all the time adding this dog and that dog to their packs of dogs and these dogs may be experienced dogs but have no experience working with the other dogs they are now working with. I know you don't have to tell me that Terrain has a big part in it. But when you running two back off dogs , one gangbuster and 2 half ass dogs that don't have much experience and  hardly no real experience hunting with each other this poses a big problem.  If you got one back off bay dog,  2 real nut Grabbers and and one really rough dog if a hog tries to break and if they have some real time experience of hunting with each other then I think your chances go really high.

If your pack is put together really well has a lot of experience hunting with each other has a lot of know-how from experience on big Hogs then your chances should be up.

We have all been through this with the running Hogs. I know I have been through it myself with adding this dog or that dog thinking he was a good dog but a lot of times was the problem though. I think there is a great difference between real hot dogs and half ass hog dogs. Before some get theur panties in a knot I myself have had more than my share of half as hog dogs. I think selection of dogs in a pack is key!
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2016, 09:23:04 pm »

I would agree that a pack that has experience working together does better than constantly switching dogs. I know I can see the difference in my dogs depending on what dogs I take. I like to shuffle my dogs around within my own yard. The end purpose is to be able to randomly grab dogs and them hunt well together and produce pork.


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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2016, 09:33:51 pm »

That's how I do it also.  I can run four dogs together and they are going to catch anything that they can butt if it's too big and to rank they will all back off and bay tight and try to keep the hog in place until the catch dog gets there and do a damn good job of it.  Or I can add one of two different dogs into that same pack of 4 and they are going to TRex's any boar hog in the woods don't make a damn if he is a Sherman Tank.  Pull that one dog back out and they are very ruff catch what they can if not back off some and try and hold it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2016, 09:40:21 pm »

Good topic. I say there are two main factors in being  successful that are more important than any style of dog. The first is keeping the same dogs and not trading off every few months. The second is actually knowing the dog and what it is good at or what it brings to pack or the dogs that are hunting at that moment. 


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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 10:08:02 pm »

I agree Judge..... I think sometimes it's not how good the dog is that you get it's what he is good at and if that can add to your pack of dogs weakness if not you don't need him.   It is like building a football team you need this specialty here and you need that specialty there , they each have a job and are damn good at it .  Adding unnecessary players to the game is not always a good thing.  The owner is the coach and general manager so sometimes we may need to do a better job in order for our players to do their job.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2016, 10:41:01 pm »

some hogs wont run and some run from one place to another and bay up no matter what the dogs do .... some hogs wont bay or stop   gotta  run him down and catch him  or just stay with him til he burns out witch may take 15 or so miles running ..... just different  hogs in different terrain run different ....you will never get any style or pack that works every time ..... if I get a runner bayed  I send the box  if I can get close enuff too ....but  if they miss  bye bye ...hahahahaha  a lot of its terrain.... some of its time of the year about to get real tuff with all the green leaves coming on ...... some old dogs just know how  to hold a hog bayed or a group of hogs .....but  you still gotta catch it .....
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2016, 07:15:32 am »

Valid points by everybody.

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some hogs wont run and some run from one place to another and bay up no matter what the dogs do .... some hogs wont bay or stop   gotta  run him down and catch him  or just stay with him til he burns out witch may take 15 or so miles running ..... just different  hogs in different terrain run different ....you will never get any style or pack that works every time ..... if I get a runner bayed  I send the box  if I can get close enuff too ....but  if they miss  bye bye ...hahahahaha  a lot of its terrain.... some of its time of the year about to get real tuff with all the green leaves coming on ...... some old dogs just know how  to hold a hog bayed or a group of hogs .....but  you still gotta catch it …..

I tend to agree with what he said. A lot of times when a hog makes up his mind to run, he is going to run no matter how good of dogs you are running & the time of year & terrain dictate is the dogs can catch up & shut him down.

Over the years I have had several dogs that could consistently bay hogs by theirselves. These dogs just made it look easy no matter where they were hunted. I have also had dogs that when hunted 3 or more together caught everything. They did not let hogs get away but what a price I paid in Vet bills & getting dogs killed. The trick like Tx.Hogdogs said is to find that happy medium that works for you.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2016, 09:06:26 am »

I like really loose dogs I have watch hogs still be in there bed and I feel I catch a lot more this way cuz the dogs don't seem to be as tired just sitting back baying making it to were I can catch three or 4 and go home and the next day the dogs ain't just so wore out they can't go again and I just feel like if a hogs standing still why dose a dog need to be working him now if he runs I have seen mine hang off of him like ear rings then hog stop and there back ten feet do I catch them all hell no but it's so much Easyer walking then have to run cuz u don't know what the hell is getting tour up and terrain don't matter if the hog is not pressured at all in my opinion and another thing is if the hog breaks and runs y dose a dog have to catch up to it I would much rather one just drive the track to were the hog stoped and slip in and bay him up again with no pressure he breaks again that's when I will try and pull some dogs out the race to take more pressure off just my two cents  and I love to sit on the 4 wheeler and listen to them 1/2 hound curs bay then get my bull dog off and walk in there and hardly break a sweat hahahah


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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2016, 11:16:14 am »

I have to agree with everything said.  One thing is for sure you are not going to stop everything and catch.   If a big hog is a natural born runner they are hell to stop that's for sure no questions asked. It's either TRex's the big hog on the spot are run him till his lungs pop.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2016, 02:12:44 am »

I agree 100% with your original postregarding a pack of dogs that are familiar with each other working well together. Its no different than any other team. If the team members have all done it together 100x's before thaley are all used to one another and know their respective jobs, throw a stranger in the bunch and there will be hickups. My dogs are rough and thats how i like em, they work well for me and i hunt them a particular way every time because of it. 2 out, thats it, any more on the ground and im just beggin for a trainwreck but with just 2 on the ground they work well for me.

And i also agree with whoever it was that said if a hog wants to run he is gonna run, thats just a fact of life. the only way i can think to stop that would be to run a pack of straight bulldogs and have deep pockets for the vet bills
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