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« on: February 02, 2017, 07:59:09 am »

Let me hear some opinions on trail barking..daylight or dark..running hogs or hogs that stand
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 08:05:56 am »

Doesn't matter in least bit.... 75% of cur dogs we hunt open once the hog is up and going. We catch 3-400 hogs a year with them.

Speed on the track is what matters.


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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 08:10:07 am »

Had a ole man tell me when I was a kid,,,, If a hog is gonna run when he sees a dog,, it don't matter if the dog is barkin or not behind him.. Speed of pushing a track and the knowledge of spinning one is the key to a hog dog IMO...
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 08:21:30 am »

it does matter on a running hog ....if you have ever been in the woods and   get ahead of dogs running a hog silent on track or not and see a hog slipping through and watch it stop cock its head sideways listening for the dogs .... I have and any dog actually open on track behind that hog will have a long day ....... 
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 08:26:02 am »

it does matter on a running hog ....if you have ever been in the woods and   get ahead of dogs running a hog silent on track or not and see a hog slipping through and watch it stop cock its head sideways listening for the dogs .... I have and any dog actually open on track behind that hog will have a long day ....... 

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 08:49:21 am »

Dang good thing I'm coming to get them pups from Barry then lol
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 09:50:43 am »

Everything is right or wrong depending on what side of the fence your standing on.  I don't see much wrong with it if the dog is good if not its a waste of time effort and money


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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 10:59:03 am »

Doesn't matter in least bit....
Speed on the track is what matters.


Correct track speed and the ability to drift on a track; like not run the track step for step  but swing and keep it running,trying to stay out in front.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 01:23:21 pm »

Do y'all find it calls the other dogs who could have their own thing goin on ? Could you not be elementing the oppertunity for a split bay because an open dog is pulling others off ?
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 02:11:06 pm »

The open dogs I've hunted and raised are pretty independent so it's never been an issue. I've got to where I like an open cur dog trailing or running and I still catch the big tracks I put out on. Seems like the open cur dog blood is colder then any silent cur dogs I've saw, and it's NOT cuz it's a hound cross neither!
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 02:52:08 pm »

With my dogs I have noticed that they will go to a open dog but if it's bs or they can't pick up what the open dog is on they will not honer it after that. And go do there own thing


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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 03:01:05 pm »

people catch hogs with all kinds of dogs ............I have watched on the garmin  dogs running ahead silent fall back to a dog that  opens .....some  dogs  may just get used to it but I have seen mine  do it .....
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 03:14:11 pm »

Doesn't matter in least bit.... 75% of cur dogs we hunt open once the hog is up and going. We catch 3-400 hogs a year with them.

Speed on the track is what matters.

I would agree with this. Not to say that a hog won't get out a little bigger lead on an open dog but a track pushing open dog can make that up IMO.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 04:09:50 pm »

Do y'all find it calls the other dogs who could have their own thing goin on ? Could you not be elementing the oppertunity for a split bay because an open dog is pulling others off ?


No these are real independent almost to a fault. I had bad trouble with my last set of black dogs the first 10 bays I sent them to they made maybe 3 because they would start and take their own track on the way. Sometimes ours want to run more than bay. I have two gyps that bayed a wad the other day. Some shoats left the group of 15 and cayenne went with them while the other gyp stayed bayed on the wad. Same story last summer bayed two barrs with about 6 dogs, all related, 5 left with the smaller Barr and the black gyp stayed bayed on the other barr. Lots of times I've been stuck standing there pissed looking at 10 hogs in front of me, when about 15 seconds before there 5 dogs there but they all left when a 60# shoats breaks out. It's not a bad thing because it usually leads to catching a lot more hogs but it can sure be frustrating at times.


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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 04:55:04 pm »



Speed on the track is what matters.

I would agree with this. Not to say that a hog won't get out a little bigger lead on an open dog but a track pushing open dog can make that up IMO.

Yup!! Do t get me wrong I watched the other day. Dogs had caught a sow and were about 30 min into driving a good sized boar hog. He came out and slipped down the line and the dogs were exactly minute twenty eight behind the hog, I started my stop watch when I saw him. I told Casey I sure wish they would shut up as cayenne sounded like she was letting it out every time  her foot hit the ground. That hog turned into sows and pigs a half mile later. I wish they were quiter and some are but it is what is.



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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 07:49:12 pm »

Dog smart hogs...I don't think it matters much if a dog opens are not with these hogs...they are dog smart because they have had the opportunity to aquire that knowledge...once they know a dog is on them they will bolt and get way ahead and then stop and rest in a thick briar patch or clear cut...when the dogs get close they repeat the process...with these type of hogs the dogs need lots of bottom to run them until brought to bay...I also believe the colder nosed dogs tend to open more...back when hogs were spread out more I liked a cur that opened about 3 times on a hot track to pull the other dogs in...still like those type of dogs...I also am ok with semi open dogs that are fast on track that cut and slash and run with their heads up following wind currents as well...just all around strike dogs...
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2017, 12:18:51 am »

Few weekends ago i hunted with 2 different guys in different country and both had a open dog on the ground. I hadn't seen my dog struggle that hard to get bayed since I've had her. I sure felt the open dog was pushing them harder than normal. I believe open and slow definitely don't work. I think an open dog better be able to drive it up ones rear end and run in that hogs him pocket to make him bay. I don't know much though


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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2017, 05:50:56 am »

Rueben hit the nail on the head for my situation. 90% of hunters Round here hunt running Walker's on deer. So all the hogs around here end up getting pushed easily.

Time they here a dog bark they leave the country, you either need something with bottom thatll push em till they quit or a silent dog that can sneak up on em.  That's South GA flat woods and swamps
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2017, 08:48:11 am »

  if track speed can be an advantage ....... why not silent Huh?  why can't silent be an advantage  also Huh?
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2017, 09:47:32 am »

  if track speed can be an advantage ....... why not silent Huh?  why can't silent be an advantage  also Huh?

I don't think anyone is saying it is not, I can't speak for anyone else but what I was saying is its not the end all be all factor. There are other factors more important like track speed, intelligence, nose, bottom, and the innate ability to get a hog to stop. just my own thoughts.
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