Trail barking!!!!

[HIGHWATER KENNELS]

  if track speed can be an advantage ....... why not silent   why can't silent be an advantage  also

Oh I agree Mr. Larry., one of the best dogs I ever seen hunt was one of urs,, she was 4 yrs old and was hunting that morning with my old male and my parker males daddy.  All three dogs were silent on track and still ran that boar hog for almost 4 hrs,, bayed him 3 different times,,   CD went in on the last bay about 40 yards from us and when he caught the boar hog raked him off when he left out... We talkin 350 pds of pure Russian,,, he prob had been caught before and he wasn't no rookie..   But ,, like said before,, if they gonna run it don't matter if the dogs barkin behind him or not.. Some is just smarter than others to me..

[bigo]

If you choose to run open dogs and your getting outrun, you need better dogs. If you hunt silent dogs, you don't need rougher or looser dogs, you just need better dogs. Quit using the open, rough, loose, hot, cold, wet, dry, thick, bad hogs, smart hogs excuses and strive to get better dogs. You will never be able to catch them all, but the better your dogs the better your hunts, no matter when or where you hunt.

[LionandBoarHunter]

If you choose to run open dogs and your getting outrun, you need better dogs. If you hunt silent dogs, you don't need rougher or looser dogs, you just need better dogs. Quit using the open, rough, loose, hot, cold, wet, dry, thick, bad hogs, smart hogs excuses and strive to get better dogs. You will never be able to catch them all, but the better your dogs the better your hunts, no matter when or where you hunt.

Amen!! Good post .


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[l.h.cracker]

If you choose to run open dogs and your getting outrun, you need better dogs. If you hunt silent dogs, you don't need rougher or looser dogs, you just need better dogs. Quit using the open, rough, loose, hot, cold, wet, dry, thick, bad hogs, smart hogs excuses and strive to get better dogs. You will never be able to catch them all, but the better your dogs the better your hunts, no matter when or where you hunt.

Amen!! Good post .


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X2 try to live by this rule.

[parker49]

why have  message boards if you can't have discussions ? ..... any noise is a disadvantage when trying to catch something wild that's trying to keep away from you .... that's just simple common sense ........ you ever notice when dogs is running a hog and he crosses a road or opening where you can see he or she is usually in a trot .....then here comes the dog or dogs moving most of the time faster than the hog and you think why ain't they catching up to the hog .....well they do but a real runner will stop and listen and if he hears dogs gett'n close   he shifts gears .... my sue dog will hack alittle sometimes do I care no  ...... but no excusses its better for  both of us  if he didn't ........

[T-Bob Parker]

Mr Parker, you're probably right about dogs being open giving the hogs a bit of an edge, but if these big thicket curs didn't chatter on track it just wouldn't be fair to these poor hogs! Hell, sometimes I tie Cowbells to my dogs collars just for the sake of sportsmanship!  hahahahaha

[lavacahogdogger]

Ol sue boy..if my dumbass could figure out how to post a picture on here I could sure make you laugh over that dog...I can't wait to see him again and hunt

[TShelly]

Ol mouthy stock put it on them this weekend


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[NLAhunter]

Dang they sure enough put it on em

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[TShelly]

Mr Parker, you're probably right about dogs being open giving the hogs a bit of an edge, but if these big thicket curs didn't chatter on track it just wouldn't be fair to these poor hogs! Hell, sometimes I tie Cowbells to my dogs collars just for the sake of sportsmanship!  hahahahaha

We like to give them that sporting chance Terry lol!! Too bad our dogs weren't silent we might have caught a 100 instead of 65

[parker49]

t-shelly I know people that hunt ranch's and marsh that do the same thing big numbers ........if you want to check a dogs effectiveness you hunt where there ain't many and they run bad ......... hey some of mine will hack some in hot sign but it would be better if they didn't ....... t-bob   had two young dogs Monday jumped about 300 yards in and they chattered hahahaha  sounded like they was running a rabbit for about 15 minutes  hahahaha  but they hushed and about 900  yards they set down and had  one bayed ..........

[TShelly]

t-shelly I know people that hunt ranch's and marsh that do the same thing big numbers ........if you want to check a dogs effectiveness you hunt where there ain't many and they run bad ......... hey some of mine will hack some in hot sign but it would be better if they didn't ....... t-bob   had two young dogs Monday jumped about 300 yards in and they chattered hahahaha  sounded like they was running a rabbit for about 15 minutes  hahahaha  but they hushed and about 900  yards they set down and had  one bayed ..........

 lol I'm just poking fun. It's an open forum. We can go run them 3-4 hours too! We don't hunt easy country but a few times a year. Most of the time we are in 5k acre blocks of pine plantation and briars.


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[TShelly]

We've got some pretty good half Parker/ half cur dogs rolling. The cross has thrown 2 different sets of pretty solid ones. They all talk to a hog once is up though, some more than others but none silent.. Most likely from the sire though he will open leaving on a hit a track.


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[TShelly]

I'm just trying to get it out there that it really doesn't matter. Silent or mouthy, a hog dog will put a hog at the end no matter what. Generally everything I've ever been around; the better ones were always mouthier. Some barked every time their foot hits the ground but they produce so much pork they will show you that mouth doesn't matter.


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[Pwilson_10]

Better dogs will show u pork all the time don't matter what he dose or is as long as he finds them and gose to the end of the track and holds him bayed


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[Judge peel]

Well you ether like them or you don't ain't much in the middle


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[heat]

Ive been doing this barking and no barking thing for 20 years.  I have even done it with Parker before.  The key is find the traits that you value the most in a dog.  If they carry some bad attributes (in your mind) with them....see what you can live with.  Some people will sacrifice nose for being quiet.  Some people will sacrifice grit for speed.  The key is breed or find what is working for you in your area.  My hunting Partners have hunted Open mouthed plot dogs since the mid 80's.  They have consistently caught more or as many hogs as anyone I know.  Their dogs aren't for everyone.  They have fun, hunt hard, and catch a ton of hogs.  My cousin lives in South Florida.  His dogs are quiet, rough, and short range.  They each wouldn't trade for the others best dog; but both catch a bunch of hogs.  Im not sure who I heard this from but I saw this one time:

Breeding dogs aint like mixing paint.  You can't just take black and white and make gray. If you could take nose and bottom, and breed to silent and grit.  It would be that easy.

Think about it

[Judge peel]

If I took all my spots and added the sizes up and doubled it I don't think it would be 5000 acres. You don't need a lot of land to catch hogs but if roll on groups to catch numbers it helps if you can keep rolling on and get em.  I generally think for every hog you catch there is 10 times that amount in the area. But land usely limits how many u can pull if the numbers are there. It's still impressive to catch the numbers ether way.


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[Reuben]

Ive been doing this barking and no barking thing for 20 years.  I have even done it with Parker before.  The key is find the traits that you value the most in a dog.  If they carry some bad attributes (in your mind) with them....see what you can live with.  Some people will sacrifice nose for being quiet.  Some people will sacrifice grit for speed.  The key is breed or find what is working for you in your area.  My hunting Partners have hunted Open mouthed plot dogs since the mid 80's.  They have consistently caught more or as many hogs as anyone I know.  Their dogs aren't for everyone.  They have fun, hunt hard, and catch a ton of hogs.  My cousin lives in South Florida.  His dogs are quiet, rough, and short range.  They each wouldn't trade for the others best dog; but both catch a bunch of hogs.  Im not sure who I heard this from but I saw this one time:

Breeding dogs aint like mixing paint.  You can't just take black and white and make gray. If you could take nose and bottom, and breed to silent and grit.  It would be that easy.

Think about it

Good post Heat...mixing black and white is easy...but getting the exact shade of gray can be nerve racking because it won't  be easy...and mixing 3 or 4 different colors to get a certain color...It will quadruple the fun...

[warrent423]

As a cur dog man, any barking from behind equals cull. If they are barking at a hog they had better be set up about six inches off the end of ones nose, looking it square in it's eyes.